1963 Sport Fury Suspension color?

[Daytona Jim]

What is the proper color for the lower control arm and drum brake backing plate? Also what is the right color for the leaf springs and rear end?

 

[VANDAN]

I know this won't be a big help, but here are some of those items you're asking about. They are off of a '63 Dodge 330 Sedan. The car is an original California car that spent it's time above San Francisco. I brought the car back 2 yrs ago, and now going through a complete resto into a NSS look alike. I don't think they did a lot of paint work underneath, and some things may have went out un-coated ? Hope you get some other response, as I also would like some base to work off of. I plan to replace the rear end & springs, and go with front disc brakes, so they will be painted as new. I added a pic of the torsion bars, as they are original, with the factory paint splotches. By the way, all my parts are available if you know someone looking for original items to use in their rebuild. Good luck with your build...

 

[Daytona Jim]

Thanks for the pics. Do you know what the blotches represent on the torsion bars? Maybe left and right? I live north of SF and just wondering where you found the car. Jim

 

[VANDAN]

Jim, I bought the car from an "EXCEPTIONAL" Gentleman, that lived in Santa Rosa, CA, named John. I found the car on E-bay, and after much conversing on the phone, I felt 100% confident to buy the car. I was not disappointed with the purchase. The blotches represent the factory install of the bars, and I believe the color represents the inspection, after installation of the correct bars, and settings. These are almost perfect, with the exception of some minor paint bubbling on 1 bar, but after 50 years they almost could be factory look-a-likes ! I really think the undersides were sent out assembled as received, as the quality control was not as stringent as it is today. I plan to paint my underside, and assemblies, as I like to see them, and give them some color contrast to make it look detailed. I'm adding a pic of my '63 before the tear down. I'm planning on a "Dealer Built" Max Wedge Replica from the '60's. Stay in touch as you progress...Thanks, Dan N. Lancaster, NY

 

[69L48Z27]

I thought the paint blotches signified the application or spring rate.

 

[VANDAN]

I believe you are correct on that 69L48Z27. I know the Orange blotch on my bars indicate /6 rate, and I just sold a set with the green paint mark that were from a 2bbl V8.

 

[CudaChick1968]

This may be helpful. I've relied on it for many years in my Mopar-specialist powder coating shop.

Mopar Chassis Color Chart

Legend:
BC: Body Color
GB: Gloss Black
SB: Semi-gloss Black
CI: Cast Iron Gray
N: Natural Steel or Aluminum
MP: Manganese Phosphate
CC: Color Code

(*): Some Mopar core supports are body color with semi-gloss black sprayed
on the grill side. There are some variables from what is shown above.

Assembly:
Front Unibody subframe assembly BC
Inner Fenders BC
Firewall BC
Core Support BC*

Transmission Components:
Transmission N/CC
Driveshaft N/CC
Transmission and driveshaft Yoke N/CC
Differential Housing SB
Clutch Linkage N

Brake Components:
Brake Drums SB/N
Disk Brake Shields N
Calipers CI
Master Cylinder GB or CI

Axle/Suspension Components:
Axles N/CC
Third Member SB
Upper Control Arm GB
Lower control Arm GB
Inner and Outer Tie Rods N/CC
Tie Rod Adjustment Sleeve SB
Center Link MP/CC
Idler Arm/Bracket CI/CC
Suspension Components(con’t) Strut Rods CI/CC
Torsion Bars GB/CI/CC
Shocks SB/CC
Rear End U-Bolts N/CC
Rear Leaf Springs N/SB/CC
Backing Plates GB
Spindles CI/CC
Anti-Sway Bars N/CC

Steering Components:
Pitman Arm CI/CC
Steering Box N/CC

Exhaust Systems:
Muffler Hangers and Clamps N
Exhaust System and Mufflers N

Gas Tank Components:
Gas Tank N
Gas Tank Straps N/GB
Gas and Brake Lines N

 

[Ron H]

Not being too concerned with factory correct with my CA '63 Fury, I changed out the rear axle housing to obtain a sure grip and dump the tapered axles ('65 Coronet housing) but was a skanky looking rusty housing from a WI car. I black powder coated it thinking rust prevention and a clean look 15 years ago and haven't regretted it. I washed it down while putting in new gears last winter and pretty much came out like it was when I did it. Now I'm pondering how to refinish the wheel wells...if anyone has ideas great to hear.

 

[Daytona Jim]

Thanks to all for the info!
(1) I'm restoring my 63 Max Wedge convertible and found green markings on the torsion bars, with a diameter of .892". The car was a weekend racer and I know racers would change to six cylinder bars for better weight transfer. I think I need to find some bars with a larger diameter and red/orange markings.

(2) Ron H. The body shop guys doing the paint job on my car tried a number of undercoating's and nozzle sizes and were able to duplicate the thick factory undercoat. Maybe this would work in your wheelwells.

 

[69L48Z27]

I had my torsion bars out of my 68 GTX today and cleaned them. I had one paint mark on one and two on the other. Just like what you have. Was the on with two marks from the driver's side?

 

[64 Post]

http://www.manciniracing.com/augu19maxwec.html

Try to find the magazine article on Bob Chaves' 63 Plymouth Max Wedge. His car was "in the building" at Carlisle in 2015. The write up came out in the last half of 2015, I believe. It is the benchmark restoration of 63 Plymouths.

 

[coloradodave]

Thank you for posting that chart, Leanna. Although I'm not into restoration, I'm sure many will find that information helpful. Stay warm...

 

[Daytona Jim]

Ditto Leanna. Much help. Thanks, Jim

 

[Daytona Jim]

The torsion bars are stamped L and R and the left one has two green marks on it.

 

[69L48Z27]

Thx. I didn't even notice the 'L&R' on the ends.

 

[67 GTX]

So should the 440 torsion bars on a heavy duty suspension have green marks on them? Should one side have more marks then the other?