1969 VS 1970 uni-body questions
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Only difference's.......Inner/outer wheelhouses are flat on top (where the top framing rests), on the vert. The vert will also have the 4 torque boxes installed. If the Charger came with a Hemi, it will have the torque boxes as well, otherwise no. Other than that, Uni-body is the same.
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Like to add.
The Charger has a different trunk pan and extensions than the Satellite.
The front left fender well, left core support plate and battery tray are between 69 and 70.
Other pans, frames, cowl/firewall,ect are the same.
Oh and the roof is different.
Also 440hp cars got torque boxes.
The Charger has a different trunk pan and extensions than the Satellite.
The front left fender well, left core support plate and battery tray are between 69 and 70.
Other pans, frames, cowl/firewall,ect are the same.
Oh and the roof is different.
Also 440hp cars got torque boxes.
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Was wondering if there was any differences of the following parts between a 1970 Roadrunner and 1969 Charger.
I have a chance to buy a parts car and use some of the metal for my 69 Charger. If it's the same.
front and rear door jams (down low where it connects to the rockers)
A-pillar (is it the same? and on the same angle?)
lower A-pillar (where it connects into the lower cowl)
I have a chance to buy a parts car and use some of the metal for my 69 Charger. If it's the same.
front and rear door jams (down low where it connects to the rockers)
A-pillar (is it the same? and on the same angle?)
lower A-pillar (where it connects into the lower cowl)
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Hey Don.
Yep all that should work just fine in your Charger.
Yep all that should work just fine in your Charger.
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Thanks Mark,
Is the entire A-pillar the same?
What about the entire rear door jam? The AMD Catalog shows a different door jam lock pillar for a Charger.
The front jam, or what AMD calls the "cowl side hinge panel" must be the same as there is nothing listed for a Charger.
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Ya the A's should be the same. Charger and B-body take the same windshield.
The latch jam is Charger only. It matches the body lines on the quarter.
Yes the hinge jams are the same.
The latch jam is Charger only. It matches the body lines on the quarter.
Yes the hinge jams are the same.
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Don,
Let us know what's left of the parts car when you're done! Some of us vultures might wanna pick at the bones!!
Let us know what's left of the parts car when you're done! Some of us vultures might wanna pick at the bones!!
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Convertible door jambs are different and so are the rockers (double walled) I believe.
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I will do that, might be a while though!
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there are even more differences
rear spring mount supports are different between 68-70 plymouth and dodge.
that is why the front perch is different between the 2 cars...
I thought the spring mounts were the same 1966-70 Dodge or Plymouth?
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mopar4don. I don't think the convertible windshield is the same as the charger either. I believe the convertibles are the same as the wagon and 4 door.
If you are parting a convertible, you may want to offer parts up to the vultures and pick up another parts car. You will probably make a lot more money selling convertible specific pieces. I see there was a 69 satellite 4 door for sale in the detroit craigslist for around $400 last month, and the body looked fairly clean.
If you are parting a convertible, you may want to offer parts up to the vultures and pick up another parts car. You will probably make a lot more money selling convertible specific pieces. I see there was a 69 satellite 4 door for sale in the detroit craigslist for around $400 last month, and the body looked fairly clean.
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that 70 satellite conv body isn't a wrecked EV2 orange one is it? I sold one back in late 90's i think it was. I had a wreck in it but included a lot of sheet metal with the car. Sat Conv was EV2 TOR RED, white top/interior, AC, PS, PB, 383, auto/column (i had put 4BBL, Magnum manifolds/duals, 3.23 SG. it had a piece of angle iron and tow hitch welded to the rear frame. Rear bumper was ripped off during the crash so i had a welder weld on the angle iron and weld hitch back that so i could pull my other RR back home .. other than being bent the hell up it it still drove straight as an arrow with no issues. Like a total dumbass I was towing my Red 70 on a trailer w/o trailer brakes with the convert when i had the wreck.
guy might have been from michigan but can't recall for sure. sold a lime green 70 RR v code, Coupe, bench seat, 4 speed, A32, tic toc, rolling body (was painted very faded and worn B5 at the time) car to the same gentlemen in a package deal. If you see this and you are the person or know what happened with those cars i would be interested to hear the fate/see pics of present condition. Please send PM.
guy might have been from michigan but can't recall for sure. sold a lime green 70 RR v code, Coupe, bench seat, 4 speed, A32, tic toc, rolling body (was painted very faded and worn B5 at the time) car to the same gentlemen in a package deal. If you see this and you are the person or know what happened with those cars i would be interested to hear the fate/see pics of present condition. Please send PM.
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Is this where that 1" difference in wheelbase between Dodge and Plymouth comes from?
I've always wondered about that.
It seems like it might have been an attempt to place Dodge in a slightly more upscale market position, by claiming a longer wheelbase.
I seriously doubt they'd engineer two different size uni-body pans.
Wonder if it effects driveshaft length for cars with the same drivetrain.
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YY1
I was wondering that also. I've seen posts that say for instance the dodge rear convertible panels won't fit a plymouth....but you look in the AMD catalogs and the dodges and plymouths all use the same floor pans, rear footwell sections, seat pan, rockers inner wheel tub, trunk floors, frame rails.....etc. If all that is hard plumbed, was wondering if the axle was just pushed back an inch to gain the difference in wheelbase. Sorry to derail the post....but I'm interested to see if anyone has insight on this.
I was wondering that also. I've seen posts that say for instance the dodge rear convertible panels won't fit a plymouth....but you look in the AMD catalogs and the dodges and plymouths all use the same floor pans, rear footwell sections, seat pan, rockers inner wheel tub, trunk floors, frame rails.....etc. If all that is hard plumbed, was wondering if the axle was just pushed back an inch to gain the difference in wheelbase. Sorry to derail the post....but I'm interested to see if anyone has insight on this.
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Yes the Dodge axle sits back 1" farther than the Plymouths on the 68-70. Front spring hangers are different between Dodge and Plymouth. Pans are the same.
Also yes the converts have reinforce jams and rockers and yes they share the windshield with the sedans. OP first first talked about a 70 Sat vert but then when on about a 70 RR. I was replying about the interchange with the RR.
Also yes the converts have reinforce jams and rockers and yes they share the windshield with the sedans. OP first first talked about a 70 Sat vert but then when on about a 70 RR. I was replying about the interchange with the RR.
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the support where the front spring hanger mounts
that comes off the rear frame rail is where the differance is..
something to keep in mind when swapping out rear frame rails on a 68-70body.
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Hey Fly:wave3:
You sure? I've found that the spring hanger itself is the difference not the support that it mounts to. FPM shows same support but different hanges between R and W. The rear frame bracket that the shackels mount into are different between R and W. W's are 1" back than R. That is the part to consitor when doing a frame swap.
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