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71 gtx worth?

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How much is a 71 GTX original 440/auto rebuilt that needs some minor rust repair worth? Factory a/c, manual drums, power steering, suregrip rear 3.23 or 3.55. Some rot holes in lower rear quarters, lower doors, around rear window. interested in purchasing but don't want to overpay for a car worth 10k in mint condition. Thanks
 
What color buckets? column shift? build sheet ?original motor?

Light tan interior dark brown exterior with original paint, stripes, and emblems, bucket seats, console with slapstick, not sure if build sheet still there, original motor and trans- just rebuilt
 
not to be an *** but whats it worth to you with no pics? its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. are you going to gut the car and find out what it is going to take to restore it ? are you buying? are you selling it? are you restoring it? its worth 2000 bucks rusted out and all the way to 40,000 restored and worth 60,000 if you run it across barret jackson, and if you put it on craigslist or egag it is worth 6 figures. another driveby posting with one question of what a mopar is WORTH. whats it worth to you ? trim tag ? build sheet? are the floor pans rusted out? how do you know the engine/trans are original? mileage? has it been outside rusting? in a garage?
 
Any real 71 GTX, would be worth well more than "$10k in mint condition", try maybe looking at , www.Autabuy.com , there is right now 7 from $22K-$85K, but all are in decent condition or rare cars, maybe even look at E-Scam or Craigslsist at , www.allofcraigs.com , for examples of what others are selling for, in similar condition... Good luck with your search for a 71 GTX mint for $10k... We need decent photos, lots more information, a really good description of the car Vin # & fender tag, to give any decent type of real cost evaluations...
 
...maybe even look at E-Scam or Craigslsist at , www.allofcraigs.com , for examples of what others are selling for.

Just wanted to point out that when you do this, you're not seeing what other cars are selling for. You are only seeing what asking price someone has on them. I spent over a year looking for cars on CL, and most of the cars I saw there I saw for months on end because the prices owners were asking were way too high. The car I bought started out on CL at $4,500, but I paid $2,000 for it.

Ebay is also not a reliable source of pricing data because many cars end up not selling. Some nube makes a bid they can't support, and ends up stiffing the buyer, so it looks like the car sold for a good price... right up until you see it relisted a few weeks later. And new ebay rules prohibit sellers from stating the item is being relisted because of a deadbeat bidder.
 
OK we get it

Just wanted to point out that when you do this, you're not seeing what other cars are selling for. You are only seeing what asking price someone has on them. I spent over a year looking for cars on CL, and most of the cars I saw there I saw for months on end because the prices owners were asking were way too high. The car I bought started out on CL at $4,500, but I paid $2,000 for it.

Ebay is also not a reliable source of pricing data because many cars end up not selling. Some nube makes a bid they can't support, and ends up stiffing the buyer, so it looks like the car sold for a good price... right up until you see it relisted a few weeks later. And new ebay rules prohibit sellers from stating the item is being relisted because of a deadbeat bidder.

They are just places to get an idea of possible worth... OK we all get it, Were do you suggest doing a realistic pricing check on car values ??... In some earlier threads about E-Scam pricing & sales on the web, you praised E-Scam for being the end all, be all, for non-mortor business sales... I personally don't buy or sell anything off E-Scam, I perfer to keep the extra 23% in my pocket....
 
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this is the reason i said this..{its worth 2000 bucks rusted out and all the way to 40,000 restored and worth 60,000 if you run it across barret jackson, and if you put it on craigslist or egag it is worth 6 figures} .... you are going to get a different figure every time. without pics ? how much of this car is bent? front bumper? grill cracked or the lower valance bent, or turn signal lenses cracked? ok , lets see , there is 1000 bucks right there alone if it has to be replaced. rear bumper bent? tail light housing broke?, rear valance bent or have tip cutouts? there is another 1000 bucks. is the glass cracked? sport mirrors? etc etc. this is how important pics are. marker lights cracked? there is another 5-800 bucks if they are no good. what kind of rust are we talking about? floor pans, trunk pan, frame rails, quarters? this all has to be added in when considering what a car is WORTH and whether or not it is even feasible to pay 10 or 15k only to have to dump another 20k into it to make it a solid car. how much of this car is usable? i havent even gone inside the car yet or underneath of it ..sorry im beating a dead horse.
 
Sold my CLONE a couple years back for $14K. Remember you're dealing with a car that is rarer than most people think. They built what, 1900 or so Superbirds? They only built 2900 1971 GTX's.

Be prepared for some high prices for parts, when you can find them. The heavy cast aluminum rockers cost me over $800 WHEN I was finally able to find a set for sale. I had to cast my own dash emblem because no one was re-making them, and have made a few more for people over the years.

BUT, they sure are beautiful cars, and great drivers when they are right!

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They are just places to get an idea of possible worth... OK we all get it, Were do you suggest doing a realistic pricing check on car values ??... In some earlier threads about E-Scam pricing & sales on the web, you praised E-Scam for being the end all, be all, for non-mortor business sales... I personally don't buy or sell anything off E-Scam, I perfer to keep the extra 23% in my pocket....

The plain and simple truth is that any car is worth, not one penny more or less, exactly what someone is willing to pay you for it. :) And that amount varies greatly depending on economic conditions, availability of buyers, vehicle condition, etc. Auto dealers realized this years ago, and set up Kelly Blue Book as a means for them to back up their prices. Most folks I talk to think KBB has always been an independent pricing service, but they aren't. :( Also, owners are always over-valueing their cars because they look at many faults as no big deal because they've learned to live with them, while buyers look at them as a big deal because they're going to need to fix them. When I was selling cars for Ford, I was always hearing people say "I checked by KBB value and it was a lot higher than what you're telling me", and it was always the same deal... they had used the value for excellent or very good, when their vehicle was actually poor. When I would point this out to them, they would challenge me on all the issues with their car I pointed out by saying "that's nothing", or "that's no big deal", and I would say "if you were buying this car, you would demand I fix these wouldn't you?", and they would get the point.

Over the past year, I've talked to dozens of owners of 73/74 Roadrunners who's cars ranged from great to basket cases, and all of them were basing the price of their cars on what they saw cars listed at on eBay, Auto Trader, Hemmings, or similar venues, and I would point out what they saw was what a vehicle was listed for, not what it sold for. Between reserve prices, pulled bids, and deadbeat bidders, it's hard to gauge what prices are on eBay, and the other sources only indicate asking price, not selling price.

The guy I bought my latest car from had every reason to list his car at $4,500, and he had talked to lots of tire kickers, but no one had pulled the trigger. He pointed out how nice the body was, how the drivetrain was great, how it had lots of new parts; and I pointed out how it needed a new interior, bumpers, paint, and a host of other issues. I offered $2,000, and he decided $2,000 was a better deal than spending more of his time waiting for someone to show up with $4,500 and a willingness to pay his price, even though he had seen "lots of cars in worse shape sell for more on eBay!"

So, what's the best way to price your car? I would suggest looking at asking prices for similar cars, then reducing that price by 30%, and use that as your starting price. That'll get your car sold when the other guys are still holding out for their extra 30%

What I said about eBay before is it's better than CL, IBid, or other avenues for selling your parts, and I stand by that. Case in point, I bought the 150 MPH Rallye dash I mentioned in my post, for the rediculously cheap price of $50, and replaced the uncut dash in the Roadrunner with it. I took the uncut dash, put it on ebay, and it sold within a week for over $300, which is all going towards paying for a rechromed bumper and wheel well trim. And once my old bumper is off, it'll go up on eBay; and I expect it to sell for about $75 or $100, which will offset the cost of something else. Had the guy I bought my dash from used eBay, he would have sold his dash for about $150, which minus the 23% you hate, would still come out to $115 and change, or double what he made off CL. :) And he wouldn't have had to wait close to three months to find a buyer.
 
Yep I agree mostly, well I guess that there are many ways to get an IDEA of value of your cars... Theres an a$$ for every seat & the car is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it... This car sounds like it wasn't done correctly in the 1st palce... Buyer Beware
 
Yep I agree mostly, well I guess that there are many ways to get an IDEA of value of your cars... Theres an a$$ for every seat & the car is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it...

Well, an *** for many seats... not every seat. :eek:
 

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The plain and simple truth is that any car is worth, not one penny more or less, exactly what someone is willing to pay you for it. :)
Amen!

Between reserve prices, pulled bids, and deadbeat bidders, it's hard to gauge what prices are on eBay, and the other sources only indicate asking price, not selling price.

If you REALLY want to get an idea of what things are actually selling for, once you do your search on e-Bay, go to the left side of the page, about 2/3rds of the way down is a box that says "completed listings" Click that. Red prices means it didn't sell, green prices are sales that completed and what they are actually selling for. Seems quite a few people don't know about this feature. It's a great tool for sellers too, lets you know if it's worth listing an item for sale

What I said about eBay before is it's better than CL, IBid, or other avenues for selling your parts, and I stand by that. Case in point, I bought the 150 MPH Rallye dash I mentioned in my post, for the rediculously cheap price of $50, and replaced the uncut dash in the Roadrunner with it. I took the uncut dash, put it on ebay, and it sold within a week for over $300, which is all going towards paying for a rechromed bumper and wheel well trim. And once my old bumper is off, it'll go up on eBay; and I expect it to sell for about $75 or $100, which will offset the cost of something else. Had the guy I bought my dash from used eBay, he would have sold his dash for about $150, which minus the 23% you hate, would still come out to $115 and change, or double what he made off CL. :) And he wouldn't have had to wait close to three months to find a buyer.
Applauding ... the only thing I'd add is that e-Bay does give him an international viewing audience much easier than craigslist. Even tho I'm pissed @ e-Bay right now, I know I'll end up selling there again..[/QUOTE]
 
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