anyone experiment with running the motor on Oxy Acetylene ?

[sleepar]

I can't be the only one.... used an old propane set up and nitrous oxide set up for the oxy...

 

[AMX364]

No, but it makes for a good and cheap bomb. Just get the mix right.

 

[Photon440]

Almost any mix you can think of is 'right' for acetylene. I likes to burn! Many a bomb went off close to unsuspecting apprentices at work....

As for engines:
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/POWER/acetylene-eng/acetyleneeng.htm

 

[sleepar]

Thanks for the link..... I like the early stuff before it became huge companies dumming US all down. I 've run piston motors on coal dust and chicken s#it. A slow consumption engine (diesel) will run on 2500 different fuel oils. The external combustion engines ran of reloading shells for each cylinder simular to a shot gun

 

[HT413]

Forget the acetylene and just add the oxy. Acetylene has no more impressive power generating ability than gasoline, it's slow burning, it's the fact you are injecting oxygen to the tip of an oxy acetylene torch that makes the acetylene burn so hot.

Nitrous is only important because of the oxygen it delivers. However, before you waste your time trying to inject pure O2, think of why top fuel guys don't.

 

[sleepar]

I'm not going to run my car on it.... but I have run motors successfully on it for short periods... it burns better than gas... maybe not as good as nitro-methane... the engines usually end up with pistons flying out of the motor like bullets either stuck in the pavement or never to be found.

 

[HT413]

I'm not going to run my car on it.... but I have run motors successfully on it for short periods... it burns better than gas... maybe not as good as nitro-methane... the engines usually end up with pistons flying out of the motor like bullets either stuck in the pavement or never to be found.

Lol, I knew it. You, my friend, are out of your mind. Haha, just video tape it for us... and don't kill yourself lol.

 

[Photon440]

Top fuel guys probably have rules against it. Tanks are heavy, and it's not a good thing to have in a crash.

However, oxygen/gasoline engines were quite popular during WWII, especially with the Japanese who used, as early as 1936, such engines to power their torpedoes. They obtained much better speed and range than conventional methods with their Type 93 torpedo.

But HT413 is absolutely right in saying that there's no advantage or reason to use acetylene. I don't know about the slow burning speed (propane is even slower) but the heavy upright tanks just make it impractical for anything other than a large truck.

 

[HT413]

Top fuel guys probably have rules against it. Tanks are heavy, and it's not a good thing to have in a crash.

However, oxygen/gasoline engines were quite popular during WWII, especially with the Japanese who used, as early as 1936, such engines to power their torpedoes. They obtained much better speed and range than conventional methods with their Type 93 torpedo.

But HT413 is absolutely right in saying that there's no advantage or reason to use acetylene. I don't know about the slow burning speed (propane is even slower) but the heavy upright tanks just make it impractical for anything other than a large truck.

Nah, o2 just doesn't want to liquefy so you can't cram as much into the bottle and the pressure is tougher to modulate as a result. Beyond that, nitrous is bad enough if you do it 'right', making your own o2 setup or acetylene setup will be serious trial and error, and I'd guess errors blow pistons and rods to pieces.

 

[snakeoil24]

Acetylene is a tomb stone in a cylinder save this for the crazies.

 

[khryslerkid]

Lol, I knew it. You, my friend, are out of your mind. Haha, just video tape it for us... and don't kill yourself lol.

Keep your life insurance up to date!

 

[sleepar]

Gassifyers that basically make charcoal have been used in ww2 in times of fuel shortages by the Germans... there's soo mutch out there beyond the 'pump' is the point of the thread.... if nobody stuck there neck out to experiment we wouldn't have the weel and would still be dragging stuff back to our caves.... waiting around for something to be done and proven is like reading a 10year old newspaper...

 

[Cranky]

Acetylene is pretty unstable too, isn't it? A lot of experimentation took place back before and during the war and might be why you don't hear too much of it today....unfeasible maybe? Acetylene is not exactly cheap either. Even propane has gone nuts in price. Best and cheapest fuel that's sorta easy to obtain (at least for me) would be nat gas. It's clean burning and produces good power and we have huge reserves of the stuff. We just have to get the auto industry out of bed with the oil industry to move this animal onward.

 

[sleepar]

Like in the 70's when they tried propane.... natural gass would be the way to go... all the power and public service vehicles are converting to natural gas .... people fear the pressurized tanks exploding but it's safer than gasoline tank... try stabbing a pressurized cylinder with a screwdriver.... or 100 ton press. Then a regular gas tank

 

[Cranky]

Like in the 70's when they tried propane.... natural gass would be the way to go... all the power and public service vehicles are converting to natural gas .... people fear the pressurized tanks exploding but it's safer than gasoline tank... try stabbing a pressurized cylinder with a screwdriver.... or 100 ton press. Then a regular gas tank

Yeah, the nat gas company here has had nat gas vehicles for a least 25 years or better. So far, I haven't heard any explosions because of a wreck. However, the tank does take up some space but that's ok since all they use are pickups.

 

[sleepar]

The whole system is controlled by greed... what the fat cats never could understand is if everyone has better technologies and techniques we all prosper... they would get richer along with... instead of at the expense of... gasoline is 40¢ or less a gallon in Venezuela.... but we would rather go further and steal it from the middle east and have Chavez point nuclear weapons at us than negotiate a fair deal close to home.... given Texas Alaska and the Dakota's are bone dry... but regardless we buy most of our oil from Canada... that's civilian oil... the US government drills oil for there own use and sells that surplus to China cheaper than it can drill for it to keep them out of the middle east.... we keep a war in the middle east for heroin... because it's about $$$ and only $$$ it's like trying to beat the house in Vegas... same game.

 

[HT413]

Listen, sleepar, im all for individualism and sticking it to the man, but unless youre burning homemade biofuel from your turkey frier, youre in bed with an energy company because nat gas, propane, acetylene are all made by big bad energy companies and solar cells are all mined and fab'd in the land of Chinesium. Pick your poison.

 

[sleepar]

I just wan to explore some options.... the mopar will run on gasoline leaded 108.... my other future project will run on natural gas...
This thread verifies that and that all I need to know... I got a big kick out of pulling you're chain over Alice Cooper..... ht413 LOL

Wait a minute.... a solar '67 dodge.... you trying to get thrown off the forum?????

 

[snakeoil24]

Acetylene is pretty unstable too, isn't it? A lot of experimentation took place back before and during the war and might be why you don't hear too much of it today....unfeasible maybe? Acetylene is not exactly cheap either. Even propane has gone nuts in price. Best and cheapest fuel that's sorta easy to obtain (at least for me) would be nat gas. It's clean burning and produces good power and we have huge reserves of the stuff. We just have to get the auto industry out of bed with the oil industry to move this animal onward.

Acetylene is stablized as a semi solid in tanks for gas and is prone to explosion just from shaking it.

 

[sleepar]

Thank you for that.... it's in a substrate with acetone and when useing it you can't draw too mutch or above 14# or it can spontaneously combust... it was used for lighting city streets before electricity etc.... causes cancer.... I will stick to natural gass