Buick T Type question

[SteveSS]

I know it's not a Mopar but I was surfing the web and found this. Is it the same as a Grand National? Can it be made to be as fast as a Grand National? You guys know I like all cars.

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/arvada-1983-buick-regal-limited-type/7313502523.html

 

[RemCharger]

Yes they're virtually the same,, but what you really want is the 86-87. They were intercooled and just over all a better package

 

[ruffcut]

yes, nice car. I had one many years ago. Second hand and ran like a scalded cat. Was actually the wifes car. Developed trans problems and traded it. ruffcut

 

[aeon280]

I know it's not a Mopar but I was surfing the web and found this. Is it the same as a Grand National? Can it be made to be as fast as a Grand National? You guys know I like all cars.


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https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/arvada-1983-buick-regal-limited-type/7313502523.html

The major difference between the GN and T-type is the T-types have chrome bumpers instead of painted and they don't have a limited slip rear-end like the GN,s or the factory performance exhaust. Later year models in addition to the intercooler also upgraded to a 700r4. This 83 will have a 200r4 which are limited in power handling capacity so plan on having it built or upgrading to the 700 if you get over 350lbft.

 

[Brandy]

I know it's not a Mopar but I was surfing the web and found this. Is it the same as a Grand National? Can it be made to be as fast as a Grand National? You guys know I like all cars.


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https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/arvada-1983-buick

I know it's not a Mopar but I was surfing the web and found this. Is it the same as a Grand National? Can it be made to be as fast as a Grand National? You guys know I like all cars.


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Yes. Locate a 3.8 LC2 and work the software upgrades. It will fly. GNX parts and packages are plentiful today.
The 1987 Buick Grand National coupe uses a turbocharged 3.8-liter V-6 engine codenamed the LC2 that produces 245 peak horsepower and 355 foot-pounds of torque. A more powerful version of the engine is used in the limited production Grand National GNX that is tuned to produce 300 horsepower and 420 foot-pounds of torque and is powerful enough to accelerate the 3,500-pound Buick from 0 to 60 in 6 seconds.


The standard Buick Grand National LC2 engine is based on the Buick LD5 "Fireball" 231 family of V-6 designs and uses several additional technologies to maximize its forced-induction power gains over its naturally aspirated ancestor. A Garret air intercooler, wasted spark ignition and sequential fuel injection are standard on the 1987 version of the engine. The LC2 became standard on the Grand National in 1984, though the engine only produced 200 horsepower in those models. The upgraded LC2 engine used in the Grand National GNX was a stock LC2 engine tuned by the McLaren British car engineering company known for its racing heritage in Formula One. Modifications to the GNX LC2 included a ceramic turbocharger, improved intercooler, modifications to the engine's management software, and a dual exhaust system to improve airflow to the engine.


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[Photon440]

Most people wanted the GN because it looked mean and was getting all the magazine ink. But the T-Type was the way to go if you wanted a sleeper, wanted colour choices, and was usually a little bit lighter - especially in the wheel department. The T-Type is much rarer than the GN.

 

[YY1]

GN was next to TOTL (top of the line), GNX was TOTL.

T type is below both, but...

almost all GN/GNX stuff can be bolted on.

 

[Curiousyellow71]

That one may have a draw through carb instead of fuel injection. It would not be even close to a later t type.

 

[Edward Zeliesko]

86 and 87 are the ones to get, others do not have intercooler, just a couple small mods and your in 11s

 

[aeon280]

Alot of guys saying go 86/87 model but a quick internet search shows those cars in comparable condition are 25k +. If your buying to build and make it go fast than get this one dump 5k in mods in it and it will be just as fast as a 87 GNX that you cant touch for less than 80K now days. If you want it for collector value than pay up for a 86/87 model as those will always carry more collector value.

 

[Lazerwolf]

Found this on the website below referring to the 1982/1983 T-Types. Looks like 1984-1987 the engines were the same.

https://musclecarclub.com/buick-grand-national-and-regal-t-type/#:~:text=In fact, the new Turbocharged,the Gran Touring suspension system.

In fact, the new Turbocharged engine found in the Regal T-Type was not used in the Regal Grand National. Instead, the sole engine was an under performing 4.1 liter V6 rated at a mere 125 bhp, hardly a performance engine.

 

[Edward Zeliesko]

heres mine , 9.80s 137

 

[Budnicks]

heres mine , 9.80s 137

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Impressive

 

[Edward Zeliesko]

252 cubes

 

[Grabbergreendream]

I had an 85 Regal T. My buddy had an 83 Riviera T. His Riv had a 3.8 turbo. His had a rear mounted turbo but everything else looked good. My car was quick. Even after it started burning oil at 130,000 miles(quart every few days).
Mine was grey, hardtop. Very light rust behind passenger wheelwell on the bottom of the quarter...
Sold it for $600 in 98...
Seamed like they were everywhere cheap when I sold it & next thing I know they started goin up in value.
Not sure if it was true but I'd heard the HP #'s GM listed for the intercooled 86 & 87s were false because the GN actually had more HP than the corvette & GM didnt want the GN to steel potential vette customers. Again, I'm not sure if thats accurate. I'd like to own an 86/87 again someday.

 

[Budnicks]

I remember them well

 

[Burnout68]

Had a 84 I think, Riviera T-Type was actually a Front wheel drive and was pretty quick the few times I got it to spool up. Had some issue was a cool car though had a full digital dash was black with grey interior center console
I saw it CL a while back for $1500 I wanted to buy it back but it was trashed out

 

[68gtxman]

I traded my 1987 GN for a 1970 Roadrunner (basket case). At the time, I figured both were valued at $10K. The guy who got my GN never ever drove it. Not even once. He died about 12 years later and the super nice looking GN was always parked outdoors, and no longer looked super nice. While I liked the GN, the fit and finish from the factory was extremely poor. Headliner falling off; dash and door trim falling off and breaking. I know that someone else has the car now, but I don’t know what condition it’s in now.

As for the Roadrunner, I parked it in my barn and there it has sat, now for about 15 years. I bought new quarter panels, seats and front end body parts. I still have a few projects lined up before I get to it.

 

[Burnout68]

This is in Albuquerque,NM

 

[diesel_lv]

The major difference between the GN and T-type is the T-types have chrome bumpers instead of painted and they don't have a limited slip rear-end like the GN,s or the factory performance exhaust. Later year models in addition to the intercooler also upgraded to a 700r4. This 83 will have a 200r4 which are limited in power handling capacity so plan on having it built or upgrading to the 700 if you get over 350lbft.

Keep the 200-4r, it can actually be built to handle over 700 lb/ft of torque. Get an intercooler and a blowthru specific carb or fuel injection. I believe these had a box around the carb so that outside and inside pressure was the same under boost.