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Engine build, need help, hit a snag today

Rocketman

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Ok, I have the Edelbrock 2087 Top End kit with the Memphis Comp Cam high energy .545 lift.

We were told today that Memphis Comp Cams has the adjustable rockers but not the pushrods. In order to run a cam over .545 I have to make the change. Does anyone here have any idea what length pushrods I would need?

Do I get the rockers in and them have to measure to know? I know they need to be cupped on the end, at least I think they do.

I live within 3 hours of Memphis, St. louis, and Louisville and about 2 hours from Nashville. I would gladly drive to any of them to get what I need.

Thanks
 
hi,mock the rockers up,get a adjustable push rod and put it in and adjust it,measure it,and that is, the length is the push rod you need,mark
 
hi,mock the rockers up,get a adjustable push rod and put it in and adjust it,measure it,and that is, the length is the push rod you need,mark

I was hoping for a quicker way as I could end up paying a ton of money as I have not home all the time and this week is free
 
I think comp will send you the adjustable pushrod for free, ya just had to buy the pushrods from them and they refund the adjustable pushrods deposit. Pretty sure it's comp, anyway.
 
First, post a link for the cam, and I can check on the required pushrods tomorrow. I assume you mean Comp Cam Extreme High Energy Hi-Lift cam 21-228-4

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=712&sb=2

Their website does not list pushrods, so I will look in my catalog tomorrow. You could also call them to ask their recommendation. At a minimum, these Magnum pushrods should work, 7422-16

http://www.compperformancegroupstor...duct_Code=7422-16&Category_Code=WedgePushrods

Going with that high of lift, I definitely would go with 3/8". The rocker arms you choose could recommend a length, but at any rate, there will be a bit of adjustment in the rockers to accommodate the magnum pushrods.
 
First, post a link for the cam, and I can check on the required pushrods tomorrow. I assume you mean Comp Cam Extreme High Energy Hi-Lift cam 21-228-4

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=712&sb=2

Their website does not list pushrods, so I will look in my catalog tomorrow. You could also call them to ask their recommendation. At a minimum, these Magnum pushrods should work, 7422-16

http://www.compperformancegroupstor...duct_Code=7422-16&Category_Code=WedgePushrods

Going with that high of lift, I definitely would go with 3/8". The rocker arms you choose could recommend a length, but at any rate, there will be a bit of adjustment in the rockers to accommodate the magnum pushrods.

Yes I have the cam you listed above. I found these numbers for pushrods, two at summit, two at comp cams website, all are comp brand:

Summit Racing
7442-16 - 9.030 in length, mentions adjustable rockers needed, 3/8"
7432-16 - 9.4" in length, 3/8" diameter

Comp cam website
7422-16 - 8.710 length, 3/8 inch
7402-15 - 8.55 lenght, 5/16 diameter

We are calling David M, if he has what I need in stock I am headed to Memphis tomorrow.

thanks
 
I have a similar kit from edelbrock, it listed the pushrod length and style. I then ordered the rods and adjustable rockers from Comp. Mine are ball style at both ends.
 
You can take a chance at an off the shelf pushrod but measuring is for certain. And don't get 5/16" push rods. Go with heat treated 3/8" at minimum.
 
I got mine from Smith Brothers as well. Mocked up the rockers with an adjustable push rod, measured, called them and in no time I had them and perfect.

For what it's worth I would measure to be sure. Just my 2 cents.
 
bit of a saying that applies here."measure twice,cut once."make sure to get the right ones the first time.get the rockers and an adjustable rod to check the length.several factors can change rod length besides cam and rockers.have the heads been milled?how much?has anyone modified the shaft mounts?all those variables become mute with a simple measurement.
 
I have a similar kit from edelbrock, it listed the pushrod length and style. I then ordered the rods and adjustable rockers from Comp. Mine are ball style at both ends.

We are doing the same thing I think. Comp is working on rocker kit now.
 
Make sure you turn motor over so as rocker doesn't touch retainer if rods are too short and tip stays towards center of valve stem.
 
Still waiting on the rockers and pushrods from Comp Cams, did get the cam installed and set today, repainted the block, installed the oil pick up from Milodon and reinstalled the distributor.

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DON'T RUSH! Use an adjustable pushrod checker. Do it the right way once. It will save you time in the end.
 
I'm not a big fan of off the shelf Push-rods... Has the block been decked/milled ??, have the heads been milled ??, what head gaskets are you using/what thickness ?? {0.020" steel shim or 0.39"-0.040" compressed like a Fel-Pro or Cometic or what ever make & thickness's}, what rocker ratio, 1.5:1 or 1.6:1 ??, what base circle is the camshaft ??, what spring pressures {determine thickness/material or styles} & what type retainers &/or installed spring heights ??, It's not really an off the shelf Item "USUALLY", there're many factors that figure into the length of "your specific push-rod needs" for your exact milling spec., type & length of lifter, camshaft type hyd. or solid & base circle, what valve spring pressures, rocker, head, gasket, combo, to keep the rocker tips, in or near the center of the valve tip, thru-out the 360* of full lift/rotation... You can shim rocker shafts or use a lash cap too {I personally like the lash-caps myself, especially on my race engines, some will say "don't use them", but I like the larger & much harder surface area, for the rockers to stay in the center of longer, for better geometry & no valve-tip wear, there are negatives too, if you loose a push rod or rocker, the lash caps could go down into the engine, fortunately I've never had that issue with the proper type/sized/style/diameter lash-caps}...Also if they are too short, you have more adjuster sticking out the bottom & will weaken them & oil starvation at the cup & ball connections, could cause a failure to them too, sometimes with more than 3 threads showing under the rocker on the adjusters... A couple of $12 adjustable push-rods one for intake & 1 for the exhaust, do a pair of valves at a time, is well worth the minimal cost.... I have used Smith Brothers Pushrods @ http://www.pushrods.net/pushrods.html for years now, I always check ever combo with-out exceptions, too many variable to just buy any off the shelf push rod unless your 100% sure it's the length you will actually need, with a bunch of aftermarket parts & various machine work done, it's cheap insurance to make absolutely sure, install the heads, check to make sure... Not all cams are ground the same, not all valves are the exact same length, not all lifters have the same pre-load/hydr. or valve lash if mechanical/solid type {although Edelbrock's have had pretty good/better specs, valves retainers, locks seal etc. & quality control, compared to other cheaper offshore brands}... You could need longer push rod, most all the Edelbrock heads "I've installed", unless the block or heads have been milled a bunch, have all needed longer push-rods, anywhere from 0.050"- 0.1.25" longer depending on base circle {I use Crane Rockers & camshafts stuff for years} & specific parts used, on a B-low deck or RB block...
 
We ordered what was reccomended by the Edelbrock kit and with the adjustable roller rockers they will work just fine. My mechanic went thru 10 revolutions for each side checking the opening and closing of the valves as I watched. I think we will hear it run tomorrow, for sure Tuesday. I am anxious to hear the .545 lift cam bring this puppy to life. My Mechanic has a 4.89( 1/8)drag car and said the Comp Cam rockers and pushrods were soem of the best he had ever seen and would probably switch next time he built an engine.

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