Found this on CL

[70rr-brian]

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2890461632.html

Not too hateful for a 48k miles non numbers matching 70 GTX. Just thought I would throw it out there if anyone is interested.

 

[detmatt1]

Not bad at all but doesn't say much about rust issues, It's still a `70 GTX though, won't last long at that price.

 

[Budnicks]

70 GTX $9500, non matching #'s, not a bad price, I wonder what all is wrong with it....

 

[wannadrag]

If it spent its life in ohio i would bet some rot on the bottom side.

 

[MoparMikey]

Even with some Ohio rot it's a good price

 

[70rr-brian]

Well an update on this one....

Curiousity finally got the better of me. Even though I really don't need another one I called and inquired about it anyway since its not too far away from me and the price seemed pretty good to me.

First question I asked was about rust. He told me it had "new floor boards" however the 1 piece floor board piece had been welded in over the original versus cutting it out and doing it right. OK... He then went on to describe the other rust issues, quarters with bubble rust rot around the rear windshield, trunk rot etc...

My next question was....does it have the fendor tag? To which I was told no. ***DANGER WILL ROBINSON*** Why would a 48k original milage car that had only had floor pans fixed be missing a fendor tag? He then went on to tell me that he had the build sheet though. So I said ok cool.... the build sheet confirms the options on the car then? "Oh, I don't know...it's under the seat but when I tried to remove it it just kept tearing into little pieces so I don't know because I didn't want to pull it out..." OK.... Did you record or photo it? No....

I asked him if the numbers on the radiator support and under the weather stripping in the trunk matched the VIN. He said he didn't know but would go look. I said ok...well if they match give me a call back....if they don't....don't bother. I have yet to hear back.

He knew where I was going with this and went on to tell me it had been in his family since 1979 and sincerely doubted that anyone would have gone through the trouble of cloning it back before they bought it in 1979.... He insist the VIN is that of a GTX but at this point I am going to need to see photos of the VIN/rad support/ and trunk stamping to be certain as well as the build sheet before I would consider even wasting the gas to go look at this car much less consider buying this car.

He may well be on the up and up....But the totality of what I was told is enough to make me run the other way.

 

[snakeyes]

how far away are you to do a looksy, and update with some photos I couldn`t get a return call

 

[70rr-brian]

About an hour out. Just curious....what time did you call him? I called around noon EST yesterday and grilled him pretty good on it.

 

[snakeyes]

about 330 pm

 

[70rr-brian]

Just wondering if my grilling put him off answering calls.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I wonder what all is wrong with it....

For starters, it's got a green interior.

 

[greenmonsta79]

Exactly, *** ugly color!!

 

[Al K]

Exactly, *** ugly color!!

This from a man with "g-r-e-e-n" in his name-LOL!

OK;seriously...Brian,you mentioned the aspect of cloning in '79-or the typical "lack thereof". Interestingly enough,I had a 1968 Z-28 at that time,and a head-and file cabinet-with a lot of '67-69 Z info in it. I was asked on a couple of occasions to help verify a "real" Z-28,and fortunately saved two friends from shooting their wad on fakes. Got escorted out of a garage at gunpoint after revealing one intended fraud;that car disappeared soon after and the "owner" got black-balled in the local car community. No biggie;guy was perceived to be a slime-ball anyway. There were people doing it then to Bowtie stuff,and other GM brands. My impression is that the General's goods were easier to fake(and my experiences-and that of others- seemed to back this) than Ma's or Henry's. This was before Galen's resources or "Marti Reports" were available. Wasn't much of a concentrated effort to verify GM stuff either. So,this **** has been going on for a while. Makes ya wonder how many well-done fakes have crossed auction blocks for BIG buck$,passed off as and purchased as "The Real Deal".