I don't see the spring on either side of this seal. I got the bearings and seals from Dr. Diff. These are going on the larger diameter bearing rotors from the 73 and up mopars. When you say the smaller diam section, are you talking about the inner part of the seal where there are two lips one with a slightly smaller diam and one with a slightly larger diam, not the big long lip I'm hanging onto in the pics?Smaller diameter section should face out from bearing.Can double check by looking for tension spring on lip seal, spring will always go towards protected side (bearing).
Page 22-7, Wheels-Bearings-Tires, of the 1973 Dodge and Plymouth (I have both) Factory Service Manual, tends to agree with everyone else has said with a very vague diagram. To clarify, the first, second, and fourth pictures, the area where your thumb is, that's what everyone is saying should hang out of the disc brake rotor and touch the spindle (or the little white foam gasket on the spindle, if you have that). But if you actually read page 22-8, and ignore the vague diagram, it says the seal goes INWARD, and that seems to be backed by TheRamManInc's youtube channel, "Rotor Grease Seal Installation":
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This is how I installed them because I didn't even think to double check the shop manual. And doing it this way required me to hammer the outer race of the inner wheel bearing (hope that makes sense) all the way down until it hit a machined lip within the rotor. After all was said and done, everything fit beautifully, there's no rubber gasket rubbing against the spindle at all times, etc., and this seems to be further backed up by another one of his videos "Mopar Disc Spindle Assembly - By TheRamManInc.com":
I mean look how beautiful it sits on the spindle! He seems to be an old-school mechanic and knows his stuff, but at the same time, it looks like he has the outer wheel bearing on backwards, but I think he just messed up when he propped it all together for the video.
But now I'm starting to doubt everything in the world because of the vague picture in the shop manual...
I guess one way to help answer all of this is, do you only hammer the outer race of the inner wheel bearing flush with the rotor hub, or do you bring it down as far as it can go until it hits the lip within the rotor? If you only hammer it until it is flush with the rotor hub, I can see why people think the rubber seal goes outward, because it fits nicely in the hub assembly as well.
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Page 22-7, Wheels-Bearings-Tires, of the 1973 Dodge and Plymouth (I have both) Factory Service Manual, tends to agree with everyone else has said with a very vague diagram. To clarify, the first, second, and fourth pictures, the area where your thumb is, that's what everyone is saying should hang out of the disc brake rotor and touch the spindle (or the little white foam gasket on the spindle, if you have that). But if you actually read page 22-8, and ignore the vague diagram, it says the seal goes INWARD, and that seems to be backed by TheRamManInc's youtube channel, "Rotor Grease Seal Installation":
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This is how I installed them because I didn't even think to double check the shop manual. And doing it this way required me to hammer the outer race of the inner wheel bearing (hope that makes sense) all the way down until it hit a machined lip within the rotor. After all was said and done, everything fit beautifully, there's no rubber gasket rubbing against the spindle at all times, etc., and this seems to be further backed up by another one of his videos "Mopar Disc Spindle Assembly - By TheRamManInc.com":
I mean look how beautiful it sits on the spindle! He seems to be an old-school mechanic and knows his stuff, but at the same time, it looks like he has the outer wheel bearing on backwards, but I think he just messed up when he propped it all together for the video.
But now I'm starting to doubt everything in the world because of the vague picture in the shop manual...
I guess one way to help answer all of this is, do you only hammer the outer race of the inner wheel bearing flush with the rotor hub, or do you bring it down as far as it can go until it hits the lip within the rotor? If you only hammer it until it is flush with the rotor hub, I can see why people think the rubber seal goes outward, because it fits nicely in the hub assembly as well.
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Thanks for the feedback, but damn, now I'm really confused because I have people telling me both ways.Yes the bearing race gets installed all the way into the hub. Then the seal goes in with larger diameter next. Kim
Kim said, "Yes the bearing race gets installed all the way into the hub. Then the seal goes in with larger diameter next. Kim". I think he is saying the lip goes in first. Also, this seems to be what pdiz was saying.I haven't seen anyone here tell you to put it in the other way. Here's one installed in my drum hub the same way...
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So you're are going to jam the metal/rubber, smaller diameter, dust skirt INTO the bearing. Good luck with that and yes I fill the cavity just shy of clearing the spindle with grease and have for over 40 years. Others just pack the bearings and seem to have success with that.
I have always just packed the bearings. What's the reason for filling the cavity? I remember reading that in the FSM, but the reasoning eludes me.I fill the cavity just shy of clearing the spindle with grease and have for over 40 years. Others just pack the bearings and seem to have success with that.