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H.R. 2675 Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturers Act of 2015

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Reps. Mark Mullins (R-Okla.) and Gene Green (D-Texas) have started bill H.R. 2675, the Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturers Act of 2015, in the House of Representatives. This bill would allow small automakers to build and sell up to 500 complete and ready to drive vehicles that would be visually identical to any car that's over 25 years old but could have any modern drivetrain, handling, or electronics components underneath and would be exempt from most all new car emission, mileage, and safety regulations. They would also qualify to receive their own VIN. These cars would have to be made under license from their original manufacturer. Past efforts to get a law like this passed have always been scuttled by the automakers because of competition concerns, but now that the 25-year old requirement has been added, the view is this bill is likely going to pass.

I've been reading a lot of reports since the first week of June when this bill got started, and a lot of the commentary has been negative and coming from folks who see this as a travesty to the collector car market that will further dilute the market and drive prices down, but I think this would be a great thing for the market.

First, if the "new" 1964.5 Mustangs being made are an indicator of price points, these cars are going to be selling for $100k up, which seems pretty crazy to me but I suppose there's a niche vanity market that will be willing to pay six figure prices for a trendy car, but these aren't the same buyers who are out looking for a vanilla, plain Jane, "old" car.

Second, these cars are specifically targeted at the resto-mod crowd, and the more of those folks we get out of the original car market the better for those of us who want looks old/drives old cars.

Third, while the outlook right now is for only two or three models to be made each year, the market will ultimately determine this and instead of seeing just a few of these cars we could be seeing tens of thousand of them, with a wide-variety of models and lower prices.

Like any law, this one is based on precedent and conditions. Setting a new precedent is always the hard part, but changing conditions is pretty easy. Right now the conditions are 500 cars a year, but that could easily be increased to meet demand.

So... would making hundreds or thousands of "new" old cars hurt or help the market? Would it add value to "real" cars or take so many buyers out of the market that prices for "real" cars would tank?
 
How much can the automakers charge for licensing the rights to build? Will it still be a dead duck project? I cant see it affecting the market at all. Original is original. Copy is a copy. Any of us can and many have built a clone of our dream car.
 
Nissan did it with the old Datsun 240 Z, 260 Z & 280 Z's

Unique Auto in Texas did it with Shelby's too,
rebadged a bunch of reg. Mustangs with Shelby's #'s & IIRC Ford's approval...
They also tried to do it with GM Gen 1 Camaros 67-69 Convertibles &
Chrysler/Mopar 70 E-Body Challengers, along with Chip Foose design stuff too...
I think they are defunct out of business now, didn't finish a bunch of cars &
then IIRC "allegedly" claimed bankruptcy or something along those lines...
Don't quote me on that... I'm going on memory...

It's not the 1st time it's been done or even tried...

I wonder if any of the companies kept all the old stamping dies & tooling too...

Dynacorn, AMD possibly & others that reproduce the bodies, will be an alternative too...

I'd like to see a reissue of any of the 1968-70 Mopar "real" Muscle/Pony Cars
RR's R/T's Super Bee's Charger's Barracuda's/Cuda's Challenger's Duster's Demon's,
actually from Chrysler/FCA... {there's new "alleged" merger talks with GM again}

Nothing wrong with a clone/copy/facsimile/tribute either, as long as it's represented as such...
Not being passed off as something it isn't...

Not sure how much of a market there would be,
a fake is still fake, a clone is still a clone, no matter what it's passed off as thou,
They'll probably will be overpriced & then a few select wealthy collectors,
will ultimately all buy them up 1st, turning them into an instant collectable,
especially if the OEM's & the OE Factories has anything to do or say about it...

Still Interesting "Concept" thou...

Even in my pessimism...
 
These aren't rebadged or remanufactured cars. These are 100% new cars made with all new parts. The stipulation is they must be visually identical to a car 25 years old or older. Underneath the sheet metal they can be as new and modern as any car.

They have been doing things similar to this for years with kit cars, but kit cars retain the VIN from their original source cars. These cars would have original VINs. This outfit called Revology is already making these new Mustangs, but they can only be registered in states where replica cars are able to be registered. This new law would enable these folks to create and assign VINs for their vehicles, which would solve that problem. http://revologycars.com/
 
Shelby has been doing the CSX# continuation cars/Cobra's
"as new 65-66-67's" for decades, street legal, some with newer style drivetrains
& parts, with the old alum. AC body style & racecar parts if wanted...

Like I said Nissan did it too, same concept new VIN#'s too...

Like I said it's been done before !!
Might not be the exact same thing,
but it's the exact same concept, but it's been done...

Really expensive, especially dealing with the factory or OEM's &
they {Unique} couldn't keep the doors open, because of costs/expenses...
Unique did a bunch of {not sure how many}
New 67-69 Camaros,
New 67-68 Mustangs,
New 70 Challengers {had plans for the Cuda's}
with IIRC Dynacorn Re-issued under licenses NEW stamped OE style bodies
new VIN#'s, new parts & new style drivetrains too,
with the blessings from the OEM's...

I think Saleen & Rouse were gonna' do something similar too..
Until they saw the bottom drop out of that market...
 
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Back to the 'Stangs, new old or otherwise - you trip over them out here. Who the heck would pay 110 g's.
 
Back to the 'Stangs, new old or otherwise - you trip over them out here. Who the heck would pay 110 g's.

ILMFAO...

We, me, my pops & a few ol' car friends, ol' racing buddies
call them Jafmo for, just another F---en' Camaro
& Jafma for, just another F---en' Mustang

By the way, I'm not a Camaro & Mustang hater either,
just enough of them already, there were/are millions made originally...

Maybe;
Do it with
a 68-70 RR or GTX
a 68-70 Super Bee or R/T
a 68-70 Charger R/T
a 67-69 Cuda' {Barracuda, Formula S or S/S}
a 67-69 Dart GT, Swinger or GTS

Now that would be news, I'd get behind...
 
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