Hurst shifter - long throw

[AR67GTX]

My 66 has a Hurst shifter with reproduction OE handle.

The shift throws in the gates with this shifter seem very long. I’m 6’2” and I have to lean forward to comfortably reach 3rd gear. I also have Ford Toploader in a car with Hurst and a repro 63 handle and a 66 Corvette with a Hurst and repro handle. Both seem to have much shorter throws - not unexpected on the Vette with a fairly short handle but the Ford handle is probably close to the length of the one in my Satellite and it feels like a much shorter throw in the gates.

I’m going to make another effort to find a part number on the transmission arms in my car but just from physical appearance they look Hurst, including bushings and rods. And my experience of seeing someone trying to link up a Hurst with non-Hurst shift arms is usually that there are big problems. The unit is adjusted including the shift stops and shifts fine. But kind of like rowing a boat going down the road.

Anyone who is running a similar setup - do your shifter throws seem unusually long? Maybe it’s just the way they are. I have the part numbers for transmission arms for this setup but when I looked before I didn’t see a number on mine. The numbers may be stamped on the inside. I’ll try to get I picture today.

 

[R413]

Good looking interior photos!

Can't help on the interbreeding of the Hurst, seems it could be arm length on shifter or the trans. Good luck on the search.

 

[Bird 426]

Do not ever remember a Hurst looking like that. What's the name of the other shifter Mopar used?

 

[dadsbee]

I find my HP2 the most tiring car of the fleet to drive. Still has the inland, but it's a WAY over there for third, vs the shifter beside my knee in the Bee.

 

[BSB67]

Brewer offers a hurst shifter to inland handle conversion for 66 - 67 cars. Maybe that is what’s in there.

I cannot speak to the throw or location of handle in gear.

 

[AR67GTX]

Brewer offers a hurst shifter to inland handle conversion for 66 - 67 cars. Maybe that is what’s in there.

I cannot speak to the throw or location of handle in gear.

Yes, it is.

Interestingly I went out and measured the throw of the Satellite and the Ford and both actually do have about the same length throw at the ball. But the Ford is in a Cobra replica and the transmission and shifter are quite a bit further back while the Plymouth is pretty far forward. So I guess that’s basically the difference. The levers have to be Hurst, they do have numbers just pretty faint and the 1/2 is blacked by the 3/4 rod.

So, probably like dadsbee said and just the nature of the beast.

Do not ever remember a Hurst looking like that. What's the name of the other shifter Mopar used?

Inland Shifter I believe. The handle on mine is a replica in that it’s modified to bolt to the Hurst shifter.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Drill new holes in the shift levers bolted to the side of the transmission... Move the new location in toward the attachment bolt... .5" should work nicely...

 

[Bird 426]

Inland, that's it, had a brain fart!

 

[Runcharger]

What Wild said, replicate the T/A-AAR short throw factory mod.

 

[Sam69sat]

Maybe try a 7174 hurst shift mechanism? Supposely shortens the throw. Was used for the longer pistol grip shifters on 70 b bodies.

Could I trouble someone for some pistol grip shifter info

Seems like pistol grip shifters are some of the coolest things you could get on a mopar. But i was thinking... I dont really know much about them. About all i know for sure is hurst makes like 3 different reproduction ones. What Years/Cars could you get one on? Where they available for...

www.forbbodiesonly.com

 

[AR67GTX]

Drill new holes in the shift levers bolted to the side of the transmission... Move the new location in toward the attachment bolt... .5" should work nicely...

Actually that thought has been percolating in my mind. C2 Corvettes had transmission arms drilled in 2 places for long throw (normal) and short throw for the stock Muncie shifters. Most people use the short throw. A Hurst has adjustable shift stops but I believe they only hit 2nd and 3rd gear. There are no shift stops for 1st and 4th except internal travel of the sliders in the transmission. But I guess GM didn't think that was an issue on the Muncie so maybe it isn’t for Mopar either. The other problem is I think the arms are tool steel and probably a bitch to drill.

I guess the long reach and throw on these cars with a console is basically a side effect of the offset in the shift lever to the right to get it to come up in the center opening of the console plate. I don’t think the non-console cars have the off set and thus the shifter is closer to the driver and at hand.