interior color question.....

[moparmaniac10]

I recently purchased an all original 67 belvedere convertible. On the fender tag it states H4B, which is the high trim, bench seat, light blue interior. However, the entire interior is white, including the original white top. The interior is the original interior to the car as it has never even been unbolted from the floor. My question is, does anyone know if it was common for the dealer to take out an interior to replace it with a different color cause of someone ordering it different but not changing the fender tag? Everything on this car is original.

 

[MRHWS]

It's possible seats and door panels could have been swapped out at a dealership at buyers request to make a sale. I had it done once on a set of wheels and tires on a new car sitting on the lot. Car had base whitewalls and hub caps and I wanted aluminum rims with raised white letter tires.

 

[anmracing]

Wow! That seems like a lot of extra work to make a sale. Easier to swap wheels and tires than an interior. You know that no stealership these days would do something like that.....

 

[yellowdartdave]

I do believe that it was coded for H4B but was built in all white.
Could have been a misbuild or they could have been out of the H4B componets, but I think somebody just screwed up on the line.
Or the wrong broadcast sheets could have been hung on the car when it came down the line.
Mistakes happen and I have seen my share.

And dealers would not have any reason to change the data tag.

Look at the bottom left corner. what color is your carpet, dash pad and steering wheel??

 

[moparmaniac10]

I don't have really good pics of the dash and carpet, but it looks like the dash pad and carpet are black and the steering column and wheel are blue. Or they may be all blue, I will see it when the car gets here in 2 weeks. The convertible top is white.

 

[SUPERSTOCKRACER]

NEED to see pics of the interior to tell.

 

[rrunner]

Do you have a build sheet? H4C is blue and white, may have typo on the fender tag. It would be more common for a fender tag typo that a dealer swap out.

 

[moparmaniac10]

Here is the fender tag. I need to get the car here so I can take my own pics.

 

[696pack]

Do you have a build sheet? H4C is blue and white, may have typo on the fender tag. It would be more common for a fender tag typo that a dealer swap out.

If the dash pad and carpet are black and the steering wheel and column are blue, something is amiss here.
If the interior was originally Blue from the factory the dash pad, steering wheel, column and carpet would be blue.
The only interior from the factory in 1967 in white were combination interiors of white with either blue, turquoise or red. In these cases the dash, steering wheel, column and carpet would be the secondary color NOT white.
So, if the the interior was originally white as you THINK there is no way the dash pad and carpet would be black IF original.
If the dash pad, steering wheel, column and carpet are blue then the interior was either blue (as the tag states) OR it could have been a blue white combo with a misprinted fender tag but the broadcast sheet SHOULD have been correct to what the car left the factory with. If there is no broadcast sheet then you will always have to defend your thoughts that the tag is wrong and the interior was a white/blue combo.
Dealers DID do switches like this back in the day to sell a car and if the dealer had a white/blue interior car along side of a blue interior car the only things switched would be the seats and door panels on a convertible to make this happen.

 

[MarPar]

I recently purchased an all original 67 belvedere convertible. On the fender tag it states H4B, which is the high trim, bench seat, light blue interior. However, the entire interior is white, including the original white top. The interior is the original interior to the car as it has never even been unbolted from the floor. My question is, does anyone know if it was common for the dealer to take out an interior to replace it with a different color cause of someone ordering it different but not changing the fender tag? Everything on this car is original.

How do you know the seat wasn't unbolted at some point?

interior pics please!

:worthless_thread:

 

[moparmaniac10]

Dash pad, steering wheel, column, and carpet are all blue. Spoke to the previous owner. Here is a pic of the seats and doors

 

[69Coronetrt]

Notes and thoughts...

There was not a blue and white combination or black and white combination for a 67 Belvedere convertible.
The seat pattern is wrong for a HB4 interior. In fact there is no white bench seat available for a 67 Belvedere.
White (P6W) was available for RP (Satellite) and RS (GTX) convertibles which would explain the white door panels and rear quarter panels.


My opinion and thoughts: this is obvioulsy not an H4B interior. If the interior was special ordered from the factory to include the P6W parts, the trim code would probably be 999. If this was a special order interior, but not coded 999, what pattern was used? I can't find that particular design in any 65 or later Mopar parts book.

I believe someone somewhere changed the interior after it was delivered from the factory. I'm not sure that is even a Mopar seat pattern.

The VON may give us another clue. What is it as I can't read it in the picture. If it starts with a "0" that reinforces this interior is NOT factory installed.

Have you checked under the seat covering to find any supplier tags or stamped metal tags that will give you another clue as to what these are out of? Look for a tag that you may find wrapped around the seat frame. It will have some stampings on it.

Have you checked under or behind the seats for a broadcast sheet?

 

[moparmaniac10]

I don't have the car yet. I am having it delivered from california next week. I have tried to explain to some people that I can't give them pics, cause I am only going off the pics that were sent to me via email. I am just happy that the car is so rust free. I guess I will have to check to see what the seats came out of once it gets here on friday or saturday (april 1st or 2nd). Thanks for all your help.

 

[696pack]

Doug,
That seat material looks to be cloth and vinyl and the pattern is a common aftermarket typical upholstery shop job. Many people had the standard vinyl interior in converts reupholstered in cloth because the sun made it too hot to sit on.

You are right in correcting my previous post about the blue/white combo not being available in the 67 Bel. I was looking at GGs white book which of course is inclusive of all models and does not really break it down per model in many cases.

The H4B interior on a 67 Bel convert is a two pattern all vinyl interior as per the link below.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/colorAndTrim/1967/67_GTX_Belvedere0004.jpg

The interior in the pictures above in my opinon is definately aftermarket. It MAY have been done at the dealership BEFORE it left the dealership since there was not a factory option for a cloth interior.

 

[moparmaniac10]

Thanks for that link. I know it tells me that there were not any white interior convertibles, but I think either way, even if it lowers the value of the car, I am going to put white interior in it with the stock blue exterior color. The car has a white top stock too, so that, in my opinion will look good. Besides, i am not a fan of blue on blue. Thanks for all of your help. It will be interesting to do some history on this car when I get it in a week.