NEw 440 build AC and Radiator hose issue

[wsutard]

Im building a new 440, was looking at a buddies 440 setup with AC to see what I need on the front and and found an issue I need ideas with.

My current radiator (recently rebuilt, three core) has the top port on the drivers side and the bottom port on the passenger side. When I put my AC pump on the 440 the pump is going to block any direct route from the top port to the water housing. For you visual people I have included a drawing.

My current solution is to switch tops of the radiator to a pass side top. That would put my top and bottom ports on the passenger side. The other solution is to buy a radiator that has pass top and driver bottom.

Any other creative solutions that cost less money anyone has come up with before? I cant be the only one to run into this problem.

 

[TxDon]

What year / model? Stock or aftermarket compressor? Here's what was done on my car with aftermarket.

 

[mccoymail]

I'm stumped how this current setup would work. the water pump outlet points to the drivers side of the radiator. You need a different radiator.

 

[69 GTX]

or find a ac mount for the pass side below the alt.

 

[Yatzee]

Im building a new 440, was looking at a buddies 440 setup with AC to see what I need on the front and and found an issue I need ideas with.

My current radiator (recently rebuilt, three core) has the top port on the drivers side and the bottom port on the passenger side. When I put my AC pump on the 440 the pump is going to block any direct route from the top port to the water housing. For you visual people I have included a drawing.

My current solution is to switch tops of the radiator to a pass side top. That would put my top and bottom ports on the passenger side. The other solution is to buy a radiator that has pass top and driver bottom.

Any other creative solutions that cost less money anyone has come up with before? I cant be the only one to run into this problem.

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You can't have the outlet and inlet to the rad on the same side using top and bottom tanks, you'll bypass the cooling tubes. If you want to see the proper setup reference a 66 - 67 C-body Imperial with a 413 engine, Which is a RB engine also. If you are not using the OE compressor you will either have yours mounted almost dead center on the engine or mounted on the right side.

 

[wsutard]

69 Coronet. It has a small block in it now with the AC which is located more central than on a 440. Interesting to know you cant have the out and in on the same side. Which makes sense.

 

[wsutard]

I basically need a new radiator then. Passenger outlet on top, driver outlet on bottom. **** balls, mfer.

 

[wsutard]

What year / model? Stock or aftermarket compressor? Here's what was done on my car with aftermarket.

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This is the setup I am going to run.

 

[Sixpactogo]

What year 440? The 66-71 440 had the water pump outlet on the lower driver side. 72 & up ones have the water pump outlet on the passenger lower side when they ran into a smog pump issue. With your AC setup it sounds to me that you have a small block radiator.

 

[wsutard]

What year 440? The 66-71 440 had the water pump outlet on the lower driver side. 72 & up ones have the water pump outlet on the passenger lower side when they ran into a smog pump issue. With your AC setup it sounds to me that you have a small block radiator.

69 Coronet. 26" radiator that is paired to the 340 in the car now.

 

[wsutard]

No one makes AC brackets that locate the AC out of the way of the radiator hose if it is coming from the drivers side.

 

[Scatpack]

You can't have the outlet and inlet to the rad on the same side using top and bottom tanks, you'll bypass the cooling tubes. If you want to see the proper setup reference a 66 - 67 C-body Imperial with a 413 engine, Which is a RB engine also. If you are not using the OE compressor you will either have yours mounted almost dead center on the engine or mounted on the right side.

The radiator in my super bee has the inlet and outlet on the same side. Originally came out of a 1966 C body with A/C.

 

[wsutard]

The radiator in my super bee has the inlet and outlet on the same side. Originally came out of a 1966 C body with A/C.

Does it work well?

 

[wsutard]

Looks like radiators are designed single, dual, or triple pass. The radiator has to be setup internally for the ports.

 

[Scatpack]

Does it work well?

Never got super hot, stayed around 180 even when sitting in traffic for a while.

 

[69a100]

My 66-300 w/26" radiator & ac looks like the pics in post #2. Here's 2 pics of a 66-300 with what appears to be a 22" rad & AC, and long where the top hose goes. Just slightly off center towards the pass side of rad.
Good Luck

 

[69Bee]

Looks like radiators are designed single, dual, or triple pass. The radiator has to be setup internally for the ports.

This makes no sense. A radiator has 2/3/4 rows, and are filled from one end, and water exits from the other side. Everything flows at the same time, and in one pass. Position of the top and bottom tank ports is ONLY a function of where the hose works for your application. My 69 BB Superbee had the lower driver port, and upper pass port. If your radiator has an upper driver side port, you need to have a different tank put on by a radiator shop, or buy a new radiator with your needed configuration.

 

[wsutard]

Without debating the merits of port placement on radiators it looks like the answer to my original question is that no one has a trick/work around for my specific situation. This means I will either have the top changed on my current radiator or buy a new radiator with the top port on the pass side.

 

[69Bee]

That would also be the best time to put a new core in, or at least have it rodded out...

 

[Mike67]

Get some stainless and hard pipe it, use short pieces of hose and gator grips to join each end.
This is not apples to apples, but its what I did on my wifes Mustang