New Garage project!

[TekHousE]

HI all,

Well at last after literally high level negotiations between me and my wife, we have concluded that I MUST have proper garage space at home. YAY!

So far my Coronet has been garaged in rental spaces, that have not been large enough to let me work on it during winter.

But this coming summer we are going to build a proper lock up/warm space for me to basically live in.. ;)

There are some restrictions on how large we can build due to our local municipal codes etc. Over here in Finland each property has a maximum areas that can be devoted to house and attached/free standing garages or sheds etc.

We have just received information from our municipal that we can have a garage that is 97 sq Meters, 936 sq feet.

I am thinking that this is quite good and should be large enough to park up to 3 cars, and provide enough space to work on 1 or 2 of them by driving the 3rd car out during the work.

Does this size space sound OK to you guys?

 

[hunt2elk]

936 is a decent 3 car garage and far better than you have now, right? You will be able to get a lot accomplished in there. Are you thinking about going with 12' sidewalls to be able to fit a hoist in, or is there height limits you have to follow also?

 

[MoparMitch]

No ones garage space is big enough. You WILL fill it up quickly. If you are limited to 936 sq ft, I would be careful and diligent about the design of the interior spaces. Build in as mutch storage as you can, and try to keep floors clear all the way to the walls.

 

[440+6]

Check your codes, you may be limited to 936 sq ft of area, but you may be able to go upward as in second level for storage.

 

[conv67bdere]

936 is a decent 3 car garage and far better than you have now, right? You will be able to get a lot accomplished in there. Are you thinking about going with 12' sidewalls to be able to fit a hoist in, or is there height limits you have to follow also?

X2 - think about a lift so you can put one car on the lift and one car under the lift . . . no more pulling a car out to work on the others . . . Good thought H2E . . .

 

[TekHousE]

That's exactly what I was thinking..Going up..My house is tall, from the front side 2 storey, from the back 3.. (its on a slope obviously)...

So I think I have some headroom with this. Would love to have the shop floor mostly free space, with roll cabinets on the sides for tools. Then build a loft floor, for parts etc. and maybe a lounge and tv..(much later on, car stuff first..)

I have 2 options for lifting the cars, first is a floor system that rolls under the car but lifts both sides just like a proper 4 post jack. I know a company here that created one of their own systems to do this and both sides can be moved independently but work off of the same hydraulics. This means it can work with cars of different widths etc.

The other would be full on 4 post, or a really good 2 post with the swing arms so ti lifts at 4 points.

I need to research these more before we get to far with plans being drawn etc.

 

[Brandy]

That's basically 30 ft x 31 ft. Plenty of space......and the lift idea is great. Even 1 1/2 story building with the half as storage.

 

[mopar 3 B]

TekHouseE
Checked your conversion looked a little short. European metrics to sf m sq x 10.7639 will equal 1044 sf I know this means nothing to your locals but here would be much welcomed space. I have also been thinking if going to 2 lifts. Please keep us posted on what you decide to do. Would definitely build on the largest foot print possible and go up.

 

[kiwigtx]

That sounds really cool Tek. Good to see you got the permission you needed to go ahead. :headbang:

 

[eoo]

My neighbor put a vaulted ceiling in his shop where his lift is going. Adds 2 feet to height inside with 10 foot walls. Just food for thought.

 

[MT_Mopar]

Definitely large enough to live in with a couple of nice girls... I mean cars, LOL.

 

[monaco66coupe]

You can get nice lifts for around 2400 bucks, that would make quite an Improvement, even though 1000 sq feet is still pretty decent. I didn't get a three car garage until I was 50! LoL

 

[TekHousE]

My neighbor put a vaulted ceiling in his shop where his lift is going. Adds 2 feet to height inside with 10 foot walls. Just food for thought.

You are right. And we were going to do that since, believe it or not, the municipal rejected our house plans originally since it has an outside design feature they did not like. Namely the two major end walls of the rectangle of our hosue extended up past the roof line.

They said it was too modern for the area.

So..We had to drop those extensions down so that our house has a normal roof overhang on all sides. Well, in doing this it forced us to NOT have a flat ceiling on the top floor and vault it instead. I thank them for forcing this, it gave the inside of our house so much more feeling of space inside.

And we learned that doing a vaulted roof is a good idea if you need more space. I hope we can incorporate that into the garage design too.

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You can get nice lifts for around 2400 bucks, that would make quite an Improvement, even though 1000 sq feet is still pretty decent. I didn't get a three car garage until I was 50! LoL

I'm 47..;)

 

[hunt2elk]

X2 - think about a lift so you can put one car on the lift and one car under the lift . . . no more pulling a car out to work on the others . . . Good thought H2E . . .

After having mine for several years now, I don't know how I could function without a hoist. It's the first thing I think about when someone mentions a new garage lol.

 

[68sportsatelliteragtop]

As others have stated, a garage/shop can never be too big. Another consideration is how you plan to heat the area. Forced air is nice as it allows for both heat and air, but if I ever get to build another shop, it will have a heated slab, something you can't add later without a whole lot of work. With a residential water heater and some plastic tubing, you can install radiant heat and keep things nice and toasty.

 

[HT413]

Sounds great, tek! Can't wait to follow your thread and see how things differ here vs Finland for building code and customary building style / structure. I'll go ahead and add some of those things to my thread so we can compare.

Only thing I would say is make sure you have maybe 9-10 meter depth (30 ft or so) so you have room to pull that 383 next winter when you decide it isn't enough motor. (I kid, I kid.) I would think your winters are so tough, no way you want to be pulling the car half out so you have the room.

Also, since you are square foot limited, maybe just make 1 bay 10 meters deep, keeping the rest a standard depth. This will maximize the width, which will maximize the number of cars that can fit; likely maximizing the resale value of the home.

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Maybe something like this? This should provide room to walk around the lift plus room to pull a motor, while creating a more traditional 3 car garage floor plan.



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Not to scale, lol.

 

[Propwash]

high level negotiations between me and my wife

That's hilarious......Sounds intense.


Good luck with your garage build TEK! Open garage space is priceless.

 

[TekHousE]

Sounds great, tek! Can't wait to follow your thread and see how things differ here vs Finland for building code and customary building style / structure. I'll go ahead and add some of those things to my thread so we can compare.

Only thing I would say is make sure you have maybe 9-10 meter depth (30 ft or so) so you have room to pull that 383 next winter when you decide it isn't enough motor. (I kid, I kid.) I would think your winters are so tough, no way you want to be pulling the car half out so you have the room.

Also, since you are square foot limited, maybe just make 1 bay 10 meters deep, keeping the rest a standard depth. This will maximize the width, which will maximize the number of cars that can fit; likely maximizing the resale value of the home.

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Maybe something like this? This should provide room to walk around the lift plus room to pull a motor, while creating a more traditional 3 car garage floor plan.

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Not to scale, lol.

That is awesome!

You have given me an idea...I gotta break out Sketchup..I'll post back...

 

[TX67RT]

Hello!

That will be a nice sized building! I whole-heartedly agree with building it as tall as practical. Mine is high, and I framed in a room in 1/4 of the building which gave me a climate-controlled work space below, and a huge amount of mezzanine storage above. It's almost like free space since going taller on a building doesn't add much to the overall cost.

Cheers!

JD