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Toying with the idea of one of their model two units instead of hanging some aftermarket mess under the dash and hacking everything up for speakers.

Anyone have one or experience with one? What is everyone else doing for tunes in these old girls?
 
Toying with the idea of one of their model two units instead of hanging some aftermarket mess under the dash and hacking everything up for speakers.

Anyone have one or experience with one? What is everyone else doing for tunes in these old girls?
I use a Clarion CMS2 and have no complaints whatsoever. I run a sub and 4 speakers via a small accessory amp and the sound is fantastic.
 
I'm in the midst of searching for a nice set up for my '63 Fury and was wondering what others have found to their liking. I would prefer something that mounts in the original space shaft mount (although a little bigger space for a radio had been cut out for a radio cassette player before I got the car). I have collected a couple of original radio dash plates to use and modify if necessary. What I've looked at so far has more than I'd want such as Bluetooth; but a flash drive plug in sounds nifty (not rear mount as some have). I don't think I've checked out the CMS2 and will look. Thanks.
 
Check out woodradio.com I've seen and heard Larry's conversions, great sound and powerful. Keeps the stock look while adding fm to old am radios. No cutting of dash either
 
All modern conversions do away with the pre-selector amplification at the incoming frequency on AM.
This greatly decreases selectivity, so adjacent strong stations will intrude on a weak signal you may prefer, or make it impossible to listen to.
ALL the amplification occurs after the superheterodyned frequency, where it's too late to reject strong adjacents.
Then too, you will be unable to "side-tune" to avoid a strong adjacent to one side.
Instead of mixing a sine wave with a sine wave, they superhet with square wave so the result always sounds smashed flat with no dynamics.
Additionally, the design cuts off all high frequencies above 3000 hertz, so AM will always will sound like a pillow has been installed over the speaker.
I must, as an RF engineer, honestly relate how such conversions cripple the performance of original vintage fine radio designs. I do not fault those who make a living doing this, but must speak the truth to those who might truly care about the sound of AM, which can sound three times better than what people gave been trained to "accept".
AM can sound BETTER than FM, but not when cheap modern engineering has been applied.
I will answer any questions regarding this honestly.
 
Wow - there is a lot to this...as an engineer you'd know about that the rest of us would be clueless about. I've seen some nice installs on Fords/Chevys; there's one that Clarion or Crutchfield I think has that has a flip cover for CD and front jump drive port that would be what I'd prefer. However, not a shaft mount. My shaft spacing is 5.75" and the shaft mount radios I've looked at have a max of 5.5 or less. Then there was one saying fits Mopar B-body but checking further doesn't fit my '63 likely later models. Going to a big meet this weekend Iola WI and will look around there. I might see what Best Buy has to offer; but doubt they will have something reasonably compatible looking at what they posed on their web.
 
It is very easy to add a simple audio cable directly to the volume or tone control to become an auxiliary input for whatever alternative source is desired.
If the original radio is AM/FM, you then set the selector to a point midway where neither is selected, and plug in your phone or mp3 player.
If originally AM only, I add a physical microswitch at one end of tuner travel to disconnect the receiver portion.
You're still going to be mono only, and have whatever power level was original.
Adding an amp is something anyone can do.
I have used mine for both playing through the radio, and for recording from the radio.
It's also easy at that point to remove a high frequency limiting capacitor to have even better hi-end response than original.
They all have them, and this is where it becomes possible to have the AM fidelity equal to the FM, if the station itself has not limited the upper audio.
Quite a few stations do not if they olay music.
I'm stopping short of offering this service at the present because I'm in the middle of tearing up the last 27 years of my life and moving back to my childhood city, changing jobs, etc.
But come autumn, I may begin.
When I am eventually forced into a newer car, I absolutely will be hiding a 1960s Mopar AM radio somewhere in the car so I can have the AM performance I require.
I have no beef with the FM part of these conversions, I think it's great for the FM, or the ability to play mp3s.
 
Darthomas,
Is it possible to simply add an MP3 plug to an original '69 AM/8 track radio? I've tried a Kraco cassette to 8 track converter (MP3>Balkin cassette adapter> Kraco>factory radio). Too much loss.
 
Darthomas,
Is it possible to simply add an MP3 plug to an original '69 AM/8 track radio? I've tried a Kraco cassette to 8 track converter (MP3>Balkin cassette adapter> Kraco>factory radio). Too much loss.
Yes, very easy. That's what I did to get cassette capability back in 1977,
any input source can be used.
There were very few oldies stations then that did not play the same tired 300 song playlist, so necessity drove me to it.
The more I think about it, the more I really want to offer this service as soon as I re-settle.
 
I will also be happy to do repairs and alignments or high-frequency audio mods.
One of my favorites is a -42db notch filter for the 10khz AM whistle heard on weak stations at night, which really lets AM fidelity shine through, especially on something like the Grand Ol Opry on 650 WSM Nashville.
 
Please let us know if you start this service, Thomas. I would be interested!
 
The Retrosound USA 230 will fit a 63 Dodge have one in my 62
Although I would upgrade to the 630
 
I would expect later B body radios to fit perfectly into a 1963 without any issues but check for depth behind dash.
Some early radios like 63 Dart/Valiant were only about 4-5 inches deep, and later models were 6-7 inches deep.
Fury ought to have plenty of room.
 
well allrighty then. Hi Tom! lol

whereabouts are you in Chicago? I am in Lombard
 
I live where the North Branch of the Chicago River goes over a little waterfall and meets the much larger dredged out part of the Chicago River, can hear the waterfall at night through my bedroom window after the soccer players stop shouting around midnight.
 
I live where the North Branch of the Chicago River goes over a little waterfall and meets the much larger dredged out part of the Chicago River, can hear the waterfall at night through my bedroom window after the soccer players stop shouting around midnight.

over by Goose Island?
 
ah. nice. used to go to Foster Ave beach way back when with the fam.
 
Yes, very easy. That's what I did to get cassette capability back in 1977,
any input source can be used.
There were very few oldies stations then that did not play the same tired 300 song playlist, so necessity drove me to it.
The more I think about it, the more I really want to offer this service as soon as I re-settle.
Seeing as we are not too far apart, would you have any interest in doing this before you leave? If so, what would you charge and could it be done while I wait. Seems like it should be a pretty easy job to install a jack. I'd do it myself if I knew what the hell I was doing. Electronics is not my strong point.
 
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