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Stuck Rear Drum Brake

rocky61201

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Bought my 71 Charger a few years ago and came with 4 wheel manual drum brakes. When I bought the car, the left rear wheel was frozen. At the time it wasn't a big deal as I was doing a resto anyway. We got it off the flatbed tow truck into my garage by putting the left rear wheel on a makeshift wheel dolly.

Since that time, I've upgraded to power front discs and stock rear drum using an SSBC power disc/drum master cylinder, brand new 72 OEM style combination valve for disc/drum, all new brake lines, and rebuilt the rear drums with new brake shoes and the associated hardware to include springs, star wheel adjusters, wheel cylinders, ect. The only thing I haven't replaced is the "T" fitting for the brake line on the rear axle, outer brake drums, stock style parking brake cables.

After changing all that stuff and bleeding the brakes, the left rear drum is still gets frozen. Takes a few hours or a night to become unstuck as if I'm waiting for hydraulic pressure to back off. At the time I figured, I'll get back to that problem as i've still got tons of other stuff I can work on.

So a year later this thing is ready to get back on the road. Last night I tackle the brakes again. I figured maybe the star wheel adjusters were reversed so that was the first thing I checked. It wasn't. With the car on jack stands I couldn't get the brakes to get frozen. Apply brakes and release, turn axle by hand, no problems. I visually checked the operation of the parking brake mechanism inside the drum. Engages and disengages no problem. Problem fixed right??? I put the wheels back on and lower the car. Apply brakes and frozen again. WTF!!! Even the tourque of the 383 can't overcome the frozen brakes when i put it in drive/reverse. WTF!!!

So i curse at MaMopar a whole bunch and call it a night. I'm gonna go back to work on it this evening. Any idea's from our awesome members and experts here at FBBO???

I've changed drum brake shoes at least a dozen times in my lifetime and this shouldn't be that hard. If i don't get this fixed tonight i swear I'm gonna cut the rear brake line and tie it in a knot using a pair of vice grips just so i can drive it around the block.
 
Almost forgot, I've got one more favor to ask. After making the upgrade to power disc/drum I'm not really happy with the pedal feel because I still have the stock manual brake pedal so my pedal leverage is too high and too touchy for power brakes. The fix would be spending more money than I have right now to buy a stock power disc firewall plate and the extra lever that connects the brake pedal to the booster, effectively changing the pedal ratio for power brakes. I'm not ever sure that would work with the bracketry I've got on my SSBC power booster/master cylinder. Another fix would be to change back to manual brakes and i really like the wilwood small bore master cylinders but they're too expensive for my budget right now.

So i'm looking for an OEM manual master cylinder for disc/drums. I recall reading awhile back about using the manual master cylinder from a 70's/80's D100 or something like that. Easy and cheap to buy at AutoZone/Pep Boys/Rock Auto, etc. Anybody have the part #'s because I can't find the thread??? Then I can sell the new SSBC booster/master on craigslist or ebay.
 
i have used the master off a 79 dodge d100 pickup.two bolt and works great.on your seizing problem,try swapping drums from side to side to make sure you dont have an odd ball drum.(will seize the other side if that is your problem.)also,make sure ebrake cable isnt to0 tight.one of the few things that change when car is in the air vs on the ground.check the wheel bearing on that side too.just a few ideas to try.
 
Found it. The parking brake cables were unhooked from underneath the car, but the rear section of the cables were still attached to the drums. The right rear cable is seriously stuck in the closed position and I can't break it free for the life of me. Gotta order a new one. The right side of the car is the side against the garage wall so its doesn't get the attention or lighting the left side of the car does. Frustrating weekend!!!
 
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