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Torqueflite Early B Tranny Experts?

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I posted some weeks back about my supposedly redone '63 PB trans with the motor and believe that's pretty much BS and hard to prove unless tearing it down. It's worse than when I took it in. I got some great replies to the problems I posted about lousy shift points and performance having to do with possible line pressure adj and gov redo. Anyway, looking for a reliable expert with these particular trannys to have a look that might be located around the Milw/SE WI area. If you know of any please lemme know. Thanks.
 
By "tranny" you DO mean transmission, right???
 
Kern Dog said:
By "tranny" you DO mean transmission, right???
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You’re a fool kern lol,

Don’t know about Milwaukee but in northwest Indiana we have several reputable mopar transmission shops

COPE RACING TRANS

A&A transmission

The 727 specialist lives about 20 mins from me, he works for griner engineering, assembling transmissions and valve bodies they sell but he builds mopar transmissions out of his garage. I’ve bought from him before and would again he stands behind his work
 
Just messin around...All this talk about PLAYBOY allowing freaks in the magazine and all. Crazy world.
Besides...I'm off work a few weeks so THIS is what I'll be doing..(Annoying decent people with my "humor")
 
1967coronet440 said:
You’re a fool kern lol,

Don’t know about Milwaukee but in northwest Indiana we have several reputable mopar transmission shops

COPE RACING TRANS

A&A transmission

The 727 specialist lives about 20 mins from me, he works for griner engineering, assembling transmissions and valve bodies they sell but he builds mopar transmissions out of his garage. I’ve bought from him before and would again he stands behind his work
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Ron get the phone number & talk/email & see what he thinks. Genuine experts are hard to find.
 
Ron H said:
I posted some weeks back about my supposedly redone '63 PB trans with the motor and believe that's pretty much BS and hard to prove unless tearing it down. It's worse than when I took it in. I got some great replies to the problems I posted about lousy shift points and performance having to do with possible line pressure adj and gov redo. Anyway, looking for a reliable expert with these particular trannys to have a look that might be located around the Milw/SE WI area. If you know of any please lemme know. Thanks.
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I recommend you remove the transmission and tear it down yourself. There is a series on 727 tear downs and rebuilds on You Tube that is 12 parts in a series. It is highly detailed and show how to do it "hands on". Following this, a 10 year old can do it. I suspect that the tranny was rebuilt with substandard parts or substandard technicians. No time like the present ( winter damn near) to learn a new skill.
 
Thanks for the advice! Long story on DIY, while still do a lot of things I'm older now having had neck, back, thumb, and hernia surgery. Hard to believe my dad and older brother didn't have anything near the body work I've had to have done. Well did things in my younger days I've had to pay for. Doing some work especially under cars is something I don't do near as much as I used now. What corks me is work I paid a lot of cash recently to have done wasn't done right and I friggin ended up having to do rework on it anyway! I've read up on these older TF's and they don't have the features of course the later ones had like on-demand shifting. I did re-do the VB on mine some years ago installing a shift kit and it was better; but shift points were still always too quick in my mind. I found out later I could have adjusted the line pressure to some extent to up the points some before getting into redoing the governor (as I've read anyway). The car under aggressive throttle (without opening the secondary's) is always into 3rd gear by the time it reaches 25MPH and a little clunk occurs going into 3rd gear, I've also read isn't a healthy sign. I gather these older TF's don't have a shifting "delay" unless flooring it. I achieved a delay with the kick down adjustment between 1st & 2nd but this is maxed out. I have at most 1/4-inch of travel left at the trans; but the rod adj is maxed and not sure if that 1/4-inch makes any difference. So...thinking IF having the line pressure adjusted and maybe governor modification this might do the trick for better shifting performance as much as these older TF's can give. Or having TF expert let me know one way or the other.
 
I just manually shift if I want to extend the shift wth. I think I put a vb kit in mine from transgo way back when & when manually shifting they are 'in gear' by the time the lever quits moving. Just gotta remember to not slip & go in to neutral/reverse, lol.
 
Yatzee said:
I recommend you remove the transmission and tear it down yourself.
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He says it all...

Get a good book on 'em, and go for it.
The earlier two pump 727s are a different animal. These days, few people know, or care to know, how to work on them. Nature of the beast.

If you are mechanicly inclined any, you CAN do it. Not that hard. Not sure of the problems your having with it, but only takes going through it, and fix what needs to be fixed!

If needed, we can walk you through it.
 
Ron I agree with the old age crap. Laying on the ground and removing makes me cringe, BUT the actual teardown&repair is not all that hard; just remember 'cleanliness' is the watchword.
 
Yeah I do manual upshifting quite a bit it's neat thing with the typewriter drive. One thing i havent thought on is I changed to 3:55 from 3:23 so the quicker rpm at lower speed I might think could be contributing? Not sure. I got some good tips from you all on my earlier post. Aside from getting into gov increasing line pressure sounds like it could be an easy enough improvement. Well going to park it soon and get it on jack stands as there's other work to do on it over winter and maybe play with that. Thanks
 
Yeah that'll make a little difference-- but you said jackstands!!!! (Other threads,lol) kiwi will see it and chime in I'm sure.
 
Ah ok I will look forward to it.
 
Doug didn't you read the part about laying on your back? And old age??? Lol.
 
Old? What is old? I turned 63 last week.
Doug
 
That's old. I know cuz I'm hitting 63 next week.
 
I wish you were closer, I would do it for beer and food. I have rebuilt a few, nothing groundbreaking although the valve body is different if there is an issue there. Not being able to do it because of age is a part of life. Mind may be willing but the body unable. Any trans shop SHOULD be able to R and R it without issue. The only real difference is the rear pump, spline, and input size.
 
Geez threewood, yeah Yuma AZ is a long ride from WI! A damn shame cuz I have beer and food! I'm still pretty able and do quite a bit yet just that some stuff I once never hesitated to do now I 2nd guess more with the old body. I'll have the car on stands soon with some other work to do on it and just might get the gumption to tackle it. My day job still shouts for attention...necessary for beer and food! If you don't mind may be sending you a message or two for help if I do this job. I'll send ya some beer! thx Ron
 
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