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vacuum pump advise??

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so, just got new heads and cam installed, now ,very low on vacuum,, so... hard brake pedal, I added a vacuum reservoir , helps, but not great, any advice on electric vacuum pumps?? price ?? reliability ??

any input is appreciated !
 
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You can go hydroboost...is this a daily or race car?
 
daily driver, need cheap and easy!!
 
My concern on an electric would be reliability on a daily....I have manual wilwood disc brakes so i dont have to worry about it.
The electrics are cheap enough to have a spare though!
Good luck!!!
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You could change your pedal ratio to 1 to 1 by putting in a striaght push rod. Changing it from 6 to 1 to 1 to 1.
 
so, just got new heads and cam installed, now ,very low on vacuum,, so... hard brake pedal, I added a vacuum reservoir , helps, but not great, any advice on electric vacuum pumps?? price ?? reliability ??

any input is appreciated !

This is going to sound totally unacceptable but the cheapest route you can go to achieve higher vacuum is to change the cam. Yeah that's right, change the cam. That must be some lift and valve overlap you have if the vacuum's in around the 13Hg range. Pedal ratio is not going to help unless your manual, period, your car is currently vacuum boost and won't brake without the proper amount of vacuum. A bolt on hydro boost from the auto recyclers - $125 + another $200 for plumbing, a decent electric vacuum pump ( with enough suction ) $300 + wiring and possibly a newer alternator to run it another $200. Don't forget your hearing protection cost - those things are noisy and as annoying as outboard electric fuel pumps. You could triple up on the vacuum cans with a check valve but the bottom line is "low vacuum is low vacuum" and a million cans aren't going to increase it. You need 18Hg minimum for proper vacuum brake systems. So in reality there is no, I repeat no way to improve braking in a cheap manner. If you do opt for a vacuum pump, bite the bullet and buy a vane stye that runs off your existing pulley system. Their the most reliable, produce huge amounts of vacuum and look snazzy. Or you could just change the cam, after all it is only a daily driver.
 
Non power,,front disc,,been 145 in the 1/4 with no problem.Is there a reason you prefer power brakes??
 
This is going to sound totally unacceptable but the cheapest route you can go to achieve higher vacuum is to change the cam. Yeah that's right, change the cam. That must be some lift and valve overlap you have if the vacuum's in around the 13Hg range. Pedal ratio is not going to help unless your manual, period, your car is currently vacuum boost and won't brake without the proper amount of vacuum. A bolt on hydro boost from the auto recyclers - $125 + another $200 for plumbing, a decent electric vacuum pump ( with enough suction ) $300 + wiring and possibly a newer alternator to run it another $200. Don't forget your hearing protection cost - those things are noisy and as annoying as outboard electric fuel pumps. You could triple up on the vacuum cans with a check valve but the bottom line is "low vacuum is low vacuum" and a million cans aren't going to increase it. You need 18Hg minimum for proper vacuum brake systems. So in reality there is no, I repeat no way to improve braking in a cheap manner. If you do opt for a vacuum pump, bite the bullet and buy a vane stye that runs off your existing pulley system. Their the most reliable, produce huge amounts of vacuum and look snazzy. Or you could just change the cam, after all it is only a daily driver.
well, i guess i need to look at a vane style, just put the cam in, so i dont want to pull it back out !
 
I just installed Summit Racing electric vacuum pump in my 72 RR with big-cammed 340. Fit under the battery tray perfectly. Cost about $260 but works great. I tried a vacuum reserve canister and still the brake was like stepping on a brick. Now it stops like a charm (with the pump and reservoir). Yes, it makes a lot of noise but with engine running you can't hear it at all. They are expensive but in my case it was well worth the peace of mind.
 
I just installed Summit Racing electric vacuum pump in my 72 RR with big-cammed 340. Fit under the battery tray perfectly. Cost about $260 but works great. I tried a vacuum reserve canister and still the brake was like stepping on a brick. Now it stops like a charm (with the pump and reservoir). Yes, it makes a lot of noise but with engine running you can't hear it at all. They are expensive but in my case it was well worth the peace of mind.
which pump did you buy??
 
What cam did you put in?
 
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