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Values of Superbird/Daytona?

pabster

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Perhaps this is a total newbie question, but I have to ask...

Why are Superbirds/Daytonas priced into the stratosphere? Is it their rarity, their extreme styling? I think they're awesome and all, but paying over 100K for one? Hell, paying over 1M for one?

Can someone shed light on what makes them worth more, a hell of alot more- than just about any other car from the same era?

Thanks from a lowly 3rd gen Charger owner... :toothy3:
 
nostalgia..........built so a model year could be used in NASCAR
rare.................didn't build a ton of them
Just being a specialty model......
 
Superbird & Daytona

Supply & demand now... They couldn't hardly give them away in the 1970 year models many dealerships were stuck with Superbird's for years after, Daytona's were a little different story, they were a little too extreme styling for the market at the time, they were made to homologate {minimum #'s produced & available to the public, under the NASCAR rule, Ford & Mercury did the same thing with the Taladega & Cyclone's} them into NASCAR Racing Only, so Chrysler could win on Sunday & sell cars on Monday, Chrysler engineers & sale gurus said "they never thought they would be good sellers", here's some photos & adds, just for fun...
 

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Big Willie and the street racers of LA say "Buy American"... best print ad I've seen in ages. You go, Big Willie!
 
I think they built only about 500 Daytonas and 1,900 Superbirds. They were rare then and even rarer over 40 years later.
 
The story on the winged cars all goes back to Ford. Richard Petty had been driving for Plymouth for years when Ford lured him away with their Talledega Torino in the late 1960s. The Dodge boys developed the Daytona to beat the Talledega, and Plymouth developed the Superbird to lure Petty back to Plymouth... and it worked. He came back and drove the famous Petty Blue 43 Superbird in 1970.

Since all this happened back when NASCAR drivers actually drove real stock cars, Plymouth was required to build one Superbird for every Plymouth dealership in the country in order to qualify the car for racing, so Plymouth built about 1,870 (the final number is still in dispute since they also made some R&D cars), which was the number of dealerships in the US in 1970. If you go back and check the NASCAR race stats for 1970, you'll see that Superbirds and Daytonas finished first, second, and third in just about every race. This domination of the track led NASCAR officials to prohibit any winged car (Daytonas and Superbirds) from having an engine over a certain size, which meant the winged cars could no longer have 426 Hemis in them, and that was the end of the winged cars. This is why they were only made for one year and why so few were made.

One of the most telling things about the uniqueness of the Superbird came from a quote by Petty in the late 1990s. Some NASCAR sports writers were polling drivers about how they would want their cars set up if they could do anything they wanted. The drivers said they would want to lower the chassis on their Taurus, get a bigger engine in the Chevy, change the spoiler design, etc. The writers asked Petty, who was retired by then, and he said "I would want my 70 Superbird, exactly like it was."

As to price, since these cars were made for one year only, in very limited numbers, and their racing pedigree, they are at the top of the collectible market. The good news is their prices are starting to come down a smidge (relatively speaking). I've seen a couple of 440 Superbirds selling for $100,000 to $125,000, which is down from the $200,000+ they were selling for at their peak.
 
I thought they were coming down but... a guy back home just sold a Daytona that was horrible missing fender tag alot of parts were picked etc etc.. but was a daytona for 47,000.. on ebay the car had numbers matching motor but it was stuck.. I couldnt believe it, which proves the car's are worth what someone will pay..
 
Daytonas are more valuable than Superbirds because fewer were made. There's no way I would buy a car like that on ebay. Too many scam artists out there, but I guess the risk was worth it so someone. :)
 
The story on the winged cars all goes back to Ford. Richard Petty had been driving for Plymouth for years when Ford lured him away with their Talledega Torino in the late 1960s. The Dodge boys developed the Daytona to beat the Talledega, and Plymouth developed the Superbird to lure Petty back to Plymouth... and it worked. He came back and drove the famous Petty Blue 43 Superbird in 1970.

Since all this happened back when NASCAR drivers actually drove real stock cars, Plymouth was required to build one Superbird for every Plymouth dealership in the country in order to qualify the car for racing, so Plymouth built about 1,870 (the final number is still in dispute since they also made some R&D cars), which was the number of dealerships in the US in 1970. If you go back and check the NASCAR race stats for 1970, you'll see that Superbirds and Daytonas finished first, second, and third in just about every race. This domination of the track led NASCAR officials to prohibit any winged car (Daytonas and Superbirds) from having an engine over a certain size, which meant the winged cars could no longer have 426 Hemis in them, and that was the end of the winged cars. This is why they were only made for one year and why so few were made.

One of the most telling things about the uniqueness of the Superbird came from a quote by Petty in the late 1990s. Some NASCAR sports writers were polling drivers about how they would want their cars set up if they could do anything they wanted. The drivers said they would want to lower the chassis on their Taurus, get a bigger engine in the Chevy, change the spoiler design, etc. The writers asked Petty, who was retired by then, and he said "I would want my 70 Superbird, exactly like it was."

As to price, since these cars were made for one year only, in very limited numbers, and their racing pedigree, they are at the top of the collectible market. The good news is their prices are starting to come down a smidge (relatively speaking). I've seen a couple of 440 Superbirds selling for $100,000 to $125,000, which is down from the $200,000+ they were selling for at their peak.

I seen a interview Petty gave once where he said Chrysler came to him and ask him, just what would it take for you to drive for us again, He simply told them put the wing on it, The rest is history but he laughed about it. Same thing really but it worked.. They knew they had a winner with him, the winged machines. Him and Pete Hamilton did real good, Hamilton's car was built in the old Petty shop and just restored not to long ago, in that old shop, upstairs in it they found some original parts, body and engine from the time Hamilton drove it to victory.. Great story..
 
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