When MOPAR ruled NASCAR

[Kern Dog]

Man this car sounds great!

 

[Photon440]

Thanks, Kern Dog. If anyone's interested in the 24 Heures du MANS stickers on that car, or why it has headlights and tail lights and windshield wipers.... (the original wasn't Hemi powered)
https://www.motortrend.com/news/c12-0606-nascar-goes-to-le-mans/

 

[F4R/T]

I agree, nascar was bought out years ago when Toyota came aboard . I had the privilege of getting to see Bobby Isaacs car the other day and to hear it and see it reminded me how Mopar would dominate and could. Their engineers were some of the finest. I would also like to say how great of a guy Tim Welborn is and I’m glad he has Bobby’s old car and how is a great care taker of that piece of history.Not only does the story of the car continue the legend of the driver and teams do to... it was a different time when people really clicked... and when that magic happens (it still does we just don’t hear about it often) watch out!

 

[moparedtn]

I agree, nascar was bought out years ago when Toyota came aboard . I had the privilege of getting to see Bobby Isaacs car the other day and to hear it and see it reminded me how Mopar would dominate and could. Their engineers were some of the finest. I would also like to say how great of a guy Tim Welborn is and I’m glad he has Bobby’s old car and how is a great care taker of that piece of history.Not only does the story of the car continue the legend of the driver and teams do to... it was a different time when people really clicked... and when that magic happens (it still does we just don’t hear about it often) watch out!

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Yes sir, Tim is a really good steward of that car, not to mention a great ambassador for the hobby in general.
That family's history is interesting, how the offspring of the Wellborn patriarch wound up going this way or
that - and Tim definitely was blessed by it all.
Oh...and the car is just ridiculous, larger than life and amazing to be near while it's just idling even.

 

[Slap Stick]

Na$car was bought and paid for long before Toyota came along and it was by a different Brand C.
Chrysler was successful in spite of it.

 

[F4R/T]

Tim and his crew are first class, down home folks that are great to be around! I can’t wait to see his place... Myself and many friends are talking about making the trip in old iron. Yes it kinda made my day to see the car and hear it... like a big kid in a huge candy store.. Also the Moparty was a hit with huge potential too, nice race facility too!

 

[moparedtn]

Man this car sounds great!

I remember stumbling across that video some years back and it was glorious - and set me off on one of those wonderful tangents online, where one wants to know more and winds up spending a couple hours looking up whatever else you can find.

Nothing....I mean nothing....sounds like an uncorked race hemi on a road course.
It's as if heaven had a race team.

 

[moparedtn]

Tim and his crew are first class, down home folks that are great to be around! I can’t wait to see his place... Myself and many friends are talking about making the trip in old iron. Yes it kinda made my day to see the car and hear it... like a big kid in a huge candy store.. Also the Moparty was a hit with huge potential too, nice race facility too!

Yep, his museum down in AL is on the bucket list for sure - although I'm quite sure the wife wouldn't tolerate
our driving all the way down there in Fred.
(My wallet wouldn't, either - he only gets about 6-7mpg around town now as it is )
I've done a little business with Tim's brother up in VA several years ago and there's a lot of family
history there; he's a good fella as well, just chose a different path.

 

[chargervert]

Damn, I hope I'm not too late!

 

[Joske2]

I have seen this car in person many times , its slow but it sounds good .

 

[Hey-O]

Things have changed and always will. Larry Larson years ago, didn't have a car that made the horse power like it does today. I know guys that helped him with his cars years ago when they would go out at night and really race the old school way. Pro mods are the way with 3000 plus horsepower. I know guys that ran against the outlaws in the south. Big money like everything rules today. Fact!!

 

[MarPar]

ooooo and and SpA to boot! My favorite European race course.

 

[Budnicks]

it started a little earlier that the org. video
Petty & Plymouth dominated

 

[moparedtn]

I have seen this car in person many times , its slow but it sounds good .

Define "slow"? With that 528 hemi in the aero body, I'd have a hard time calling it such.

 

[Kern Dog]

Big inches and relatively lower RPMs make for more thunder and bass as compared to the 360 and smaller engines buzzing close to 10,000 RPMs.
Formula One cars have an entirely different sound and to me, don't get my blood moving like these rumbling monsters do.

 

[1967coronet]

I like the way they did the rear wheel arch flares on petty's car , you can really see it in the towing pic.

 

[Joske2]

Define "slow"? With that 528 hemi in the aero body, I'd have a hard time calling it such.

Well, the car was built for Le Mans, wich is a very specific track. Back in those days , there where no chicanes, so top speed was very important.
I did Le mans myself 7 times, from 2010 to 2016, so i know the track very well. Even with the modern cars, we had aero packages that where specificly developed for there.
You could not run them on any other track. Well, you could, but then you where slow. Cornering is still important, but the amount of work we did to gain maybe 2 or 3 KMh was enormous. You basicly have 4 long straits there, so if you can gain 2or 3 tenths per straight, you gain 1 second. This car, with all the HP and, for that time, a fairly low CW, it could hold its own there.
If you put it on a track like Spa, Zolder, Nurburgring or such, it would be hopelesly out of its own, you have all the wheight up front, no brakes, a not so good suspension en so on.
If you would run them against the nimble european cars, its no match. Even now in historic racing, the Challengers, Camaro's, Mustangs and so on, in qualifying, they are there, but in the race, they can't keep up mostly because the brakes let go after several laps. Now, in Belgium we have a 70 Challenger that runs in Historic, that was allowed to put modern brakes on his car, then its a different story, he loses in the corners, but gains on the straight, and the brakes last for 30 min. Then its fun to watch.