Would Plymouth have been the better choice???

[0DegreeEngineer]

Which brand was more versatile Plymouth or Dodge? I was thinking today if Chrysler had decided to shelve Dodge (cars not trucks) instead of Plymouth what models would we have or if Chrysler was shelved and Plymouth remained what would that look like? (I know we will never get a real answer but thought this maybe fun)

I know in the 1960's you could get a Belvidere taxi but you could also get a Road Runner or a VIP or Fury III, But did dodge have a top tier vehicle or was that handled by Chrysler, Plymouth and Imperial?

Let me know if I am way off base or share your opinion!

 

[Hey-O]

In full size vans, Ramchargers and trail dusters, they were both built to give dealers a product to sell. Once they started to sell multiple brands in one store, the need for plymouth was done. Nonetheless, we still have the memory of the best that Plymouth offered us and Lord only knows where they'd be today, well, I guess we do know.

 

[YY1]

Except for the 1940's, Plymouth "trucks" were never marketed as trucks, only the Trail Duster (Dodge Ram Charger), and passenger versions of vans were sold badged as Plymouths, and marketed basically as station wagons.

Dual badged (Dodge and Plymouth) Neons, obviously would have survived, the P/T Cruiser would have remained a Plymouth, and possibly the retro styled, P/T influenced Plymouth truck would have made it to production. I wonder if it would have been marketed as a true "truck".

If the Dodge brand was discontinued, it would have likely triggered the "Ram" brand into existence early (which is still underway), although if this had occurred under Daimler, it's possible that the Sterling brand would have remained and became the light truck brand moving forward. I kind of miss seeing those. It could have been glorious.

 

[chargervert]

They made the right call,keeping Dodge. The way things are going, Dodge and Chrysler will be joining Plymouth in the rubbish bin soon enough.

 

[33 IMP]

They made the right call,keeping Dodge. The way things are going, Dodge and Chrysler will be joining Plymouth in the rubbish bin soon enough.

Considering that Stellantis brands Citroën, Peugeot, Alfa Romeo, and Fiat are SO GOOD at building cars for the U.S. market, that wouldn't surprise me a bit.

 

[YY1]

Whoever bult my (and other) "new" Jeep Renegades did a pretty good job.

 

[chargervert]

Atleast Dodge went out with a bang,wheels up @8.91!

 

[0DegreeEngineer]

In full size vans, Ramchargers and trail dusters, they were both built to give dealers a product to sell. Once they started to sell multiple brands in one store, the need for plymouth was done. Nonetheless, we still have the memory of the best that Plymouth offered us and Lord only knows where they'd be today, well, I guess we do know.

That is true, unfortunately probably gutted like Dodge and teetering into the abyss like Chrysler... but man if they made a Barracuda that would have been cool.
(I know it would be the same as the challenger but the idea I think is cool)

They made the right call,keeping Dodge. The way things are going, Dodge and Chrysler will be joining Plymouth in the rubbish bin soon enough.

Unfortunately i think you are right..

Except for the 1940's, Plymouth "trucks" were never marketed as trucks, only the Trail Duster (Dodge Ram Charger), and passenger versions of vans were sold badged as Plymouths, and marketed basically as station wagons.

Dual badged (Dodge and Plymouth) Neons, obviously would have survived, the P/T Cruiser would have remained a Plymouth, and possibly the retro styled, P/T influenced Plymouth truck would have made it to production. I wonder if it would have been marketed as a true "truck".

If the Dodge brand was discontinued, it would have likely triggered the "Ram" brand into existence early (which is still underway), although if this had occurred under Daimler, it's possible that the Sterling brand would have remained and became the light truck brand moving forward. I kind of miss seeing those. It could have been glorious.

The retro styled truck would have been great the way Chrysler pulled off the challenger it would look way better than the chevrolet SSR

That would have been interesting to see I haven't seen a steering in awhile used to see them a lot.

Atleast Dodge went out with a bang,wheels up @8.91!

I am hoping they manage to pull it around again like they have successfully done in the past but only time will tell, or a purchase of the defunct brand years from now... although if it's like rem arms slow releases it would be a real let down.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I don't think so. I have always liked every Dodge over it's Plymouth equivalent.

 

[Dave6T4]

In Canada, Plymouth dealers sold Fargo trucks from about 1940, through 1972. Through '40's and '50's, Dodges built in Windsor, Ontario were basically Plymouth bodies, with a Dodge front clip. We could get Custom Royales, (real Dodges), but they were special ordered from U.S.

 

[chargervert]

I too lean towards the Dodge side of things as well. My parents buying a new 70 Charger R/T SE, and my brother in law having a 440 Sixpack Challenger R/T influenced me a lot.

 

[0DegreeEngineer]

In Canada, Plymouth dealers sold Fargo trucks from about 1940, through 1972. Through '40's and '50's, Dodges built in Windsor, Ontario were basically Plymouth bodies, with a Dodge front clip. We could get Custom Royales, (real Dodges), but they were special ordered from U.S.

Does anyone know why they made them that way? I saw a video the other day referring to Canadian builds as "plodges" (Plymouth Dodges)

 

[Dave6T4]

Canada is a large country with a small population. Roughly the population of California. For most of the time, Chrysler only had one assembly plant, at Windsor, Ontario. They built every thing from Valiants to Chryslers there, plus pick-up trucks. To build affordably for a relatively small market, some commonality had to be used. For instance, the interior of my 1964 Polara is pretty well 1964 Plymouth Belvedere, complete with Plymouth dash. U.S. Polara interior is much more ornate.

 

[#41]

But did dodge have a top tier vehicle or was that handled by Chrysler, Plymouth and Imperial?

Though all brands had versions of basic cars, performance cars, and lux cars, Plymouth was really overall marketed as the basic line and Dodge the performance and truck line. Top tier Dodges were the GTX, Charger RT and SE, etc.

Did they make the right choice discontinuing the Plymouth name? I'm not sure it was a viable choice (financially). Dodge has always been a bigger brand name so they were likely to upset less customers discontinuing Plymouth over Dodge. Frankly, there wasn't much left of Plymouth when they killed it. Most (all?) of the Plymouth models were Chrysler Corp vehicles that also were available under the Dodge and Chrysler badge. Plymouth was nothing but a plastic stick-on badge at that point.

 

[guy gadbois]

To answer the OP - yes. Life would be much better all around if there were still Plymouths.

 

[Davefinan]

There’s no doubt, as someone has touched above, if Plymouth was chosen we would have seen some damn cool cudas over the years as we did with the challenger

 

[YY1]

...but we would not have that Challenger.

...and likely NOT a Roadrunner vs the Charger. Are you aware what Warner Bros licensing fees are today?

 

[33 IMP]

Oddly enough, I have never owned a Dodge. Currently four Plymouths and two 1933 Imperials.

 

[chargervert]

I have over 20 Dodges and one Plymouth, a 71 Cuda. I had four Plymouths at one point. A 70 V code 4 speed Road Runner, a 70 Road Runner convertible project car, and a 71 Satellite, and the Cuda.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Oddly enough, I have never owned a Dodge. Currently four Plymouths and two 1933 Imperials.

Same here. Nine Plymouths, two Imperials, and and two Chryslers. Although my dad owned three Dodges, he bought all but one of his new cars from the local Chrysler/Plymouth dealer. I'm sure many of us got programmed by our early exposure to one brand or the other.