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I agree, hard to figure out. I guess we can just say that they are all pretty rare these days, since they haven't made them for 50 plus years. Figure at least 50% of what was built is gone now, so maybe there is 2000 4spd Coronet R/Ts left in the whole world!!
 
NHOA years ago in a newsletter printed a list of Hemi cars known to exist. It was broken down to Dodge and Plymouth models. I'll see if I can dig it out
 
Is the real question... How many of them are left??? Not how many were made. How many "68 Coronet R/T s are left in the world? How many survivors of any kind are out there, still road worthy? Does anybody have that kind of info?
That is actually a better question. Supply and demand would still be in place. But if they made 100 of X back in the day, it is highly likely that less than half (just guessing) would exist today, if that.
 
Found a page have more to look through. Had to take to pictures to be able to read them, hope I can find the rest. My not be readable less enlarged.If I find more try to scan them. These are Hemi cars I think.
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Close no cigar. The second if you can read are owner/s. If you can redo 2nd pic.
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Found this thread when I searched Kissimmee, so bringing it back from the dead for curiosity sake.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I pretty much only consider the rarity of a car in engine and color combinations. Transmission can be broken down from there, but not much else matters imo. Now with that said I happen to have some pretty neat, and in most opinions, probably fairly rare vehicles. Also, imo, the color of and/or rarity of tops (convertible, factory painted, mod, gator grain, etc) can, and should factor in the equation. Now here's where it can get tricky, as to what other, if any, outside body additions matter? Wheels, luggage rack, shaker, etc.
Now let's use my cars as examples. Don't worry, you can't hurt my feelings regardless of what's said. This IS the internet, and my cars are not for sale, so actual value is irrelevant. Besides this thread is for what constitutes a rare car, not value.

1. 1993 Mustang Cobra #2161 of 4993 built. I bought it new (I wanted a viper but couldn't swing the entry price) 22,000 original miles, immaculate, vortech supercharged, suspension work, roll bar, and raced a lot. I have something over 200 timeslips. Got invited to the fastest street car in America contest by Car Craft magazine. Mustang guys used to rag on me at shows because I modded a "Cobra." I always smiled and asked them, "Seriously, how much fun is a stock 235 hp car? Then, if they persisted, I could always mention the two Cuda's in my garage built in 1970 and 71 with a lot less production than a fox body mustang. That usually shut 'em up.
So, 1 of 4993 1993 Mustang Cobra's. 1 of 1355 in teal. 1 of 802 with leather. Not that rare, imo.

2. 1970 440-6 Shaker Cuda, console auto, Vit. C, blk int, blk vinyl top, magnums, luggage rack, and no stripe.
1 of 1755 total hardtops. Not that it matters, but something like 1 of 855(?) automatics. Imo, the trans doesn't mean as much in rarity as the shaker, and/or luggage rack. So, let's say I want to make a show sign, what numbers should be used? I, for one enjoy reading production numbers on a sign. I learn from it. Imo, the luggage rack adds no value, but does add to rarity. Make sense? So in conclusion, do you like to see/read about a cars uniqueness, regardless of value?

3. 1971 383 Cuda convertible, 4-speed, Rallye red/blk top/blk int/blk billboards, 14" rallye wheels.
1 of 292 71 Cuda verts. 1 of 128 383's. 1 of 33 4-speeds. Now, to be honest, I would love to know how many came from the factory with Billboards. Everyone that has a 71 puts billboards on them, but, in all reality, I would think that few were actually ordered with that humongous quarter panel decal. All of my cars have broadcast sheets, this one happens to have two.

4. Now let's talk rarity. Is a car that is the only one known in a certain color a true 1 of 1? I have a 1970 FM3 340 4-speed Duster with a black painted top. It is the only "known" V02 optioned moulin rouge Duster. The story is that a dealer ordered this one and another FM3 Duster with automatic, white top, white interior. This is just a story passed down with the car. Not verified that I know of. I saw an eight year old thread last year on FABO where a guy posted that he worked at a dealership in 1970 and remembered a pink/black painted roof Duster being there. I PM'd him and never got a reply.

So in conclusion. What constitutes a 1 of 1 car? Thanks for all opinions.
 
Found this thread when I searched Kissimmee, so bringing it back from the dead for curiosity sake.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I pretty much only consider the rarity of a car in engine and color combinations. Transmission can be broken down from there, but not much else matters imo. Now with that said I happen to have some pretty neat, and in most opinions, probably fairly rare vehicles. Also, imo, the color of and/or rarity of tops (convertible, factory painted, mod, gator grain, etc) can, and should factor in the equation. Now here's where it can get tricky, as to what other, if any, outside body additions matter? Wheels, luggage rack, shaker, etc.
Now let's use my cars as examples. Don't worry, you can't hurt my feelings regardless of what's said. This IS the internet, and my cars are not for sale, so actual value is irrelevant. Besides this thread is for what constitutes a rare car, not value.

1. 1993 Mustang Cobra #2161 of 4993 built. I bought it new (I wanted a viper but couldn't swing the entry price) 22,000 original miles, immaculate, vortech supercharged, suspension work, roll bar, and raced a lot. I have something over 200 timeslips. Got invited to the fastest street car in America contest by Car Craft magazine. Mustang guys used to rag on me at shows because I modded a "Cobra." I always smiled and asked them, "Seriously, how much fun is a stock 235 hp car? Then, if they persisted, I could always mention the two Cuda's in my garage built in 1970 and 71 with a lot less production than a fox body mustang. That usually shut 'em up.
So, 1 of 4993 1993 Mustang Cobra's. 1 of 1355 in teal. 1 of 802 with leather. Not that rare, imo.

2. 1970 440-6 Shaker Cuda, console auto, Vit. C, blk int, blk vinyl top, magnums, luggage rack, and no stripe.
1 of 1755 total hardtops. Not that it matters, but something like 1 of 855(?) automatics. Imo, the trans doesn't mean as much in rarity as the shaker, and/or luggage rack. So, let's say I want to make a show sign, what numbers should be used? I, for one enjoy reading production numbers on a sign. I learn from it. Imo, the luggage rack adds no value, but does add to rarity. Make sense? So in conclusion, do you like to see/read about a cars uniqueness, regardless of value?

3. 1971 383 Cuda convertible, 4-speed, Rallye red/blk top/blk int/blk billboards, 14" rallye wheels.
1 of 292 71 Cuda verts. 1 of 128 383's. 1 of 33 4-speeds. Now, to be honest, I would love to know how many came from the factory with Billboards. Everyone that has a 71 puts billboards on them, but, in all reality, I would think that few were actually ordered with that humongous quarter panel decal. All of my cars have broadcast sheets, this one happens to have two.

4. Now let's talk rarity. Is a car that is the only one known in a certain color a true 1 of 1? I have a 1970 FM3 340 4-speed Duster with a black painted top. It is the only "known" V02 optioned moulin rouge Duster. The story is that a dealer ordered this one and another FM3 Duster with automatic, white top, white interior. This is just a story passed down with the car. Not verified that I know of. I saw an eight year old thread last year on FABO where a guy posted that he worked at a dealership in 1970 and remembered a pink/black painted roof Duster being there. I PM'd him and never got a reply.

So in conclusion. What constitutes a 1 of 1 car? Thanks for all opinions.
Not much to disagree with. Bought my car in 1978 and didn't know anything about production numbers. A year later found out that it was 1 of 27 Hemi Satellites convertibles. That changed my mind on permanent modifications. Having paper work is lucky because people don't keep it for long. I went to see the original owner in 2015 we were talking he said I've got some paper work when he bought the car. Showed me the file with original window sticker. I bought the paper work.
 
Not much to disagree with. Bought my car in 1978 and didn't know anything about production numbers. A year later found out that it was 1 of 27 Hemi Satellites convertibles. That changed my mind on permanent modifications. Having paper work is lucky because people don't keep it for long. I went to see the original owner in 2015 we were talking he said I've got some paper work when he bought the car. Showed me the file with original window sticker. I bought the paper work.
You know the story of my GTX. Extremely heavily optioned car, and a factory Y13 dealer demonstrator, but at the end of the day, a 440 hardtop with an automatic. Over the decades I tried to buy it, the previous owner was like a dog with a bone about the "one of one" deal. He had a letter from Galen stating the car was the only surviving dealer demonstrator with factory air conditioning, out of 28 originally built that way.

I showed him pictures of my five previous GTXs, and told him what I'd sold them for. Agreed with him the car was "one of one" but I was only going to pay high market for a 440 automatic hardtop. "One of one" was major obstacle to overcome in closing the deal, but I finally prevailed, and I got all the paperwork as part of the deal, including stuff the seller didn't know existed, given to me by the original owner's son.
 
Is the real question... How many of them are left??? Not how many were made. How many "68 Coronet R/T s are left in the world? How many survivors of any kind are out there, still road worthy? Does anybody have that kind of info?

I agree, hard to figure out. I guess we can just say that they are all pretty rare these days, since they haven't made them for 50 plus years. Figure at least 50% of what was built is gone now, so maybe there is 2000 4spd Coronet R/Ts left in the whole world!!

They built 1,983 440 4-speed Coronet R/T's in 1968, something like 93 Hemi 4-speed Hardtop R/T's and one Hemi 4-speed Convertible. Maybe a handful more for export. I doubt there's anywhere near 2,000 left. Maybe 500-1,000 - maybe less.

Guessing you have one by your user name? I'm excited to get started on rebuilding mine!
 
Yes, I do have one. I will take this opportunity to show it off, thank you.
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My 96 Triumph Trophy 900 is only one of 1337 made that year. I have a letter from Triumph that says so. But that is a bike. Now my 77 van, the extra long version, had many places make a camper top. The number still running, with my brand of camper top, is quite small. I have not seen any. I sometimes see a newer van, with another brand of top.
Mine is cream colour with HD orange and black stripes.
It is now the only one, because I modified the top nose area, for better aero dynamics.
 
This can go both ways.
From my memory, this turned into a thing in the 90's when the then retiree's were blowing massive retirement money on their high school rides and suddenly old muscle cars were an investment.
Ford guys can get especially wierd about it with marti reports.

To me, it is still neat to know how it breaks down. but beyond a few special options, like engine/trans/convertible, and probably color(I include interior in this also, if it is a rare combo or interior color) I don;t think it really matters if it has power windows or some other stuff.

Here is an example: My Grandfather bought a 1980 4 door Olds Cutlass. Prior, he had a 1972 four door. With the Olds 350.
tiny town northern WI. Goes to the dealer in 1980, time to get a new car, he is retired from farming and wants to buy his "last" car. Dealer tells him he can't get a 350. The 350 was exclusive to the Hurst cars.
Grandpa basically tells him he will walk if he can;t get what he wants. The list:
350 Olds(yes, Olds, it had the iconic oil filler in front)
Auto trans
4 door
entry level wheels(14")
Vinyl top
NO RADIO
AC
intermittent wipers
Cruise control
NO BACK window regulators(NOT KIDDING, THEY WERE FIXED IN PLACE)
Car was that gold/orange-y tan color with same color top

So this is a one of one. For many reasons. Is it "super rare" and worth more? LOL. 1980's Hurst 350 cars were slower 0-60 then the 4.3 V6 cars. Thanks California smog controls!

How about the chevy guys and the Chevelles? They made over half a million 2 door chevelles in 1970. And that was the 2 door hard tops. Add another 250k for the 4 doors.
But every Chevy guy will paint it red, add some black stripes and claim it is a rare muscle car. "It's not a real S, it's a clone but it is fully restored and the engine is built" So obviously it is rare, and worth $80k.

But what about the other way?
When I wanted my rockers replaced on my 1990 Ramcharger, I was told I should "just get one from the south, they made THOUSANDS of those things."
They did. About 10k in 1990.
From Chrysler themselves, about 60% of Ramchargers were 2wd.
1990 was the first year for the overdrive, and it was an option.
My truck had the 360, the OD, towing package, heavy duty front suspension for the snow commander stuff but no plow. I could list the color combo and interior, but eh.
Anyway, I was a bit annoyed. Look around, how many of these things do you see cruising around? Up north in the salt, the answer is zero. In the south I am sure they are around, but when I looked over 2/3 of them had lift kits on them and the other third were beat to tar or sitting in a field.
Did that add mega value to mine? No, but it made it worth fixing. And it makes it a rare sight around here. (I did the rockers myself after being told it was too hard by the pro shop around here)

So you can't just dismiss it out of hand either. The breakdown of options is part of the car's history and personality. People shouldn't blow it up bigger then it is, but people shouldn't pretend it means nothing either. To me, it comes down to how easy is it to find a similar, if not identical vehicle, and just how rare is the engine package. Making a big deal about accesory options is silly. Making a big deal about a 6 pack car or an actual special addition only available in certain regions or with a certain drivetrain, yeah, that matters.

And the chevy guys making a fuss over a fake chevelle SS are mental, and need help :)
 
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