1965 Plymouth B-Body Aluminum Dash Housing
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moparcrazy
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Where's the Pics !!
The owner does want to sell the piece as he is wanting to do some more work on a Super Bird. He has the 65 Plymouth A990 and sold his other Plymouth A990 car and this is one of the last pieces that he has of the race vintage. I have no ideal on the value and I spoke to Joe Suchy on the dash and he had no knowledge of them. Mark does not have internet access or other means of researching the piece and I told him that I would try to get some information for him on the piece. Does anyone have a value on such a piece? I know everyone says to go to Ebay, but I know that he would never do that and I do not sell on Ebay either. The other issue would be shipping.
The owner does not have a cell phone, only his land line. I am trying to get him to have a friend or someone with a cell phone take a couple pictures and text them to me. He is nine hours from me, so it is not possible for me to drive over and snap a picture.
moparsteve636
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Empty you mail box! P.M. me about the dash!
The stock dash isn't very heavy anyway. Plenty of spots to loose weight easier.
Doug
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A stock dash weighs 17 lbs empty with no glovebox door/liner and or cigarette box. My chemically milled dash is now 10 Lbs. I would figure that an aluminum version might be in the 7-8 Lbs range. So like DVW said, not so much difference.
Al Zangenberg
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"A-N-Y" weight savings on any race car, is an advantage. For each 100 lbs. eliminated, it lowers E.T. by one-tenth-of-a-second (1/10th) (0.1). In the hotly contested Super Stock, A/FX cars, and the like from 1962 to 1969 (and beyond of course), any advantage over the competition, was welcomed. Most-of-us are familiar with the aluminum, and fiberglass add-ons of Super Stock, and A/FX In the interest of speed...
The "Transitional" 1965 Plymouth "Melrose Missile" - went from Carbureted S/S car, to AWB carb car, to Injected AWB car, and Missile VII - w/Race Hemi, & Hillborn mechanical fuel injection - eventually went "Hoodless" & Topless!
(tip-the-can), with a lil' Nitro too, for good measure. "Copy Cats" went topless too. & the fans loved it, as did the racers, & promoters! Brave souls indeed!
The Ramchargers turned 8.90's in the latter part of 1965, with their '65 Dodge AWB car, on nitro. (I remember it being a "Big Deal"), in National Dragster, in late 1965. It surely was!
The AWB cars had many fiberglass components, and a "cheesy" roll bar, that was totally inadequate. These cars were scary! FoMoCo & Chrysler Corporation spent millions of dollars in Drag Racing, & Stock Car Racing, in the early, & mid 60's, with the hope that winning at the track, would equate to more car sales. I'm sure it helped, but GM was successful without Factory-backed cars. Enough, to maintain #1 in sales, with their GTO's Chevelle's, 442's etc. - throughout those years.
If you had this aluminum dash, in your street car, who would know? Who would care...and how would you prove it? A great piece of history (and valuable to some), never-the-less...
Happy Motoring!
AL
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The "Transitional" 1965 Plymouth "Melrose Missile" - went from Carbureted S/S car, to AWB carb car, to Injected AWB car, and Missile VII - w/Race Hemi, & Hillborn mechanical fuel injection - eventually went "Hoodless" & Topless!
(tip-the-can), with a lil' Nitro too, for good measure. "Copy Cats" went topless too. & the fans loved it, as did the racers, & promoters! Brave souls indeed!The Ramchargers turned 8.90's in the latter part of 1965, with their '65 Dodge AWB car, on nitro. (I remember it being a "Big Deal"), in National Dragster, in late 1965. It surely was!
The AWB cars had many fiberglass components, and a "cheesy" roll bar, that was totally inadequate. These cars were scary! FoMoCo & Chrysler Corporation spent millions of dollars in Drag Racing, & Stock Car Racing, in the early, & mid 60's, with the hope that winning at the track, would equate to more car sales. I'm sure it helped, but GM was successful without Factory-backed cars. Enough, to maintain #1 in sales, with their GTO's Chevelle's, 442's etc. - throughout those years.
If you had this aluminum dash, in your street car, who would know? Who would care...and how would you prove it? A great piece of history (and valuable to some), never-the-less...
Happy Motoring!
AL
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I agree any weight loss is good. Just that sometimes the cost per pound exceeds the budget. Or for that matter what it would cost to make more power.
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Steve009
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I'm pretty sure it's 0.1 seconds per 100lbs
Al Zangenberg
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You are correct Steve! Thanks for the "Head's-Up!"
I have corrected my mistake. (There may be others in the future), so keep-an eye peeled! AL
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I know when I remove one of my 45lb batteries it picks my car up .02. I wish it was .045.
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So that may indicate that your car is at a very sweet spot of 50/50 as far as weight distribution. In other words the tipping point where it is liking the removal and giving back rewards. Some car's don't reply for long periods and or weights until they reach that spot.
Agreed. Removing 45lbs low and forward might be worth .05. Just to show that 100lbs isn't always .10. The strange thing is this. Even on a good track with the car carrying the fronts to the 60 ft mark (1.240 best), it still only picks up .02. This is at 3.72lbs/hp vs 3.66lbs/hp. Car is F1810/R1535, 54.1/45.9% with both batteries, roughly 55/45% with one battery.
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I'm all about removing and relocating weight when possible. Sadly there does come a point where you make enough power that ballast is a necessary evil. The 55/45 above is proof that true 50% weight distribution isn't needed if your chassis performs correctly.
My old dirt car must not have worked well...2400# weight limit...I ran heavy always at about #2650. When she slicked off and everyone had to pedal
I was flat on the loud pedal with the LF wheel a foot in the air. When track conditions went away ballast was the only answer... 63.99% rear weight did help... Granted this was before all the shock technology of today...
And it did have an aluminum dash...
My old dirt car must not have worked well...2400# weight limit...I ran heavy always at about #2650. When she slicked off and everyone had to pedal
I was flat on the loud pedal with the LF wheel a foot in the air. When track conditions went away ballast was the only answer... 63.99% rear weight did help... Granted this was before all the shock technology of today...And it did have an aluminum dash...
Al Zangenberg
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Doug: Don't hate me...but you typed: ".02" That's 2/100ths of a second. Did you mean: "0.2" (2/10ths?) This Dewey Decimal System is dependent on ". . ." - Period!
LOLAL
glassman
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I would still like to buy that dash made out of aluminum, and for you guys that are looking for a light weight fiberglass dash, Sled City makes them and they sell for $280 plus the ride. Right now, I am selling about 2 a month. Weight is about 6-7 pounds and could go a little lighter
Rolling Thunder
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Reading about all the people wanting to buy this mystery dash is like watching an episode of the Voice. Pick me pick me lol
moparsteve636
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Do you have a pic. of the dash? Need one for my AWB!
glassman
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I can text you some pictures if you like. I will need your phone number. Stock gauges can be used or a custom plate with custom gauges. No radio hole, none of the lower holes for light switches or windshield wiper. Drill your own if you have to have them. Glove box looks like it is there but isn't. It looks so good, that people don't know it has been changed to fiberglass. I also make the awb fenders and I make a backup delete plate for the tail lights for the 65 Coronet.
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