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1974 roadrunner electrical problem

Snoman

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my 74 RR has a electrical problem can you guys help. first i have no signals so i looked at the fuse block bottom right fuse in block blown, so i replaced it and tryed signals and blows fuse soon as i turn ignition on, so i unpluged the cigerette lighter of the circuit and the signals work until i start the car and rev it up then it blows again, in the process i noticed the amp gauge working and not working when it works it goes very high. Ok what do you guys think i should try next. I replaced the voltage reg. with the cheap on from carquest maybe that is bad too? thanks for any help.
 
shot in the dark (sorry) but I would disconnect the hot going to the lights and do an ohms test to frame or body = ground If you see low resistance start thinking about a short to ground then start at either end and work your way in or out what ever the case may be.
 
The wiring diagrams for the later models can be fairly intimidating, but one of my favorite references is the MAD article:

http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml

Scroll down the page to the simplified diagram, which really outlines the idea of how these girls were laid out.

FIRST problem that is typical of these old girls is exactly what the article is about -- corrosion and heat damage to the bulkhead (firewall) connector which causes all sorts of problems. This diagram ONLY shows the two main leads -- the RED power fed coming into the interior to the ammeter, and the BLACK charging lead coming from the alternator into the interior, to the ammeter.

NOTICE the "welded splice". This is a big, welded splice, taped up in the harness under the dash, a few inches down from the ammeter black wire. As you can see, this feeds the fuse panel "hot" buss, the main feed to the ignition switch, headlight (only) power to the headlight switch, and a couple of other things on some vehicles.

NOT shown is the "ignition run" wire coming off the ignition switch, which feeds power to the instrument cluster, warning lamps, and branches off, goes out through the bulkhead and feeds several things depending on the car model.

This dark blue "ignition run" or IGN 1 feeds the

ignition system

alternator blue field wire

regulator ignition terminal (!!!!voltage sense!!!!)

electric choke, if used

distributor retard solenoid if used

idle solenoid if used

some smog doo dads on some cars

WHY is this all important?

Because if the bulkhead terminals are poor, or the ammeter is AFU, corroded, loose, etc, and or if the IGN run feed is suffering voltage drop

THIS CAN CAUSE an overcharge condition

You may have several problems

First thing I'd do is try to find out if the charging voltage is too high, and WHY

Try to get the battery "up and normal" and run the engine to simulate "low to medium" cruise. Use a good digital meter, and measure the battery voltage. With the engine/ regulator warm, voltage should be somewhere around 13.8--14.2. In no case should the voltage be below 13.5, or higher than 14.5

If so, more checks are in order, post back.

For your fuse, there may be:

A loose/ corroded condition right at the fuseholder, causing the fuse to heat up and blow

A short on something on that circuit, causing the fuse to blow

It might be that if the charging voltage is too high, the lamps are drawing so much current from the high voltage, that the fuse is blowing. Usually, though, the bulbs would burn out!!!!

According to my book, the cig lighter and turn signals are not on the same circuit

According to what I show, "cavity eight" supplies

backup lamps
radio
turn signals
reverse gear indicator lamp
 
Thank you 440roadrunner, i will check it out and post back
 
got it figured out, now that i know i had the wrong wiring schematic of the car, found it online, anyway the reverse light indicator wires was laying on the exhaust pipe causing fuse to blow, also alt. wasn't putting out anything maybe it caused the alt to burn out? I replaced the alt. and repaired the wire and all is well, Thanks for all the help....
 
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