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1975 Dodge Coronet - Kelowna, BC, Canada

Hi Photon440, I live in south Surrey/White Rock area. New member here, old Mopar guy from way back in the early Mission Raceway times.
 
It's great to see some fellow BC Mopar fans on here! So it appears that the 75 Coronet had an option for a center console. I'm guessing that not many (if any) reproduction parts are made for late model B Bodies. Most of what I see runs up to 74. Does anyone know which consoles would fit into the factory location on this specific car? As I'm wanting a modern feeling interior, I've thought about the possibility of having a custom dash\console fabricated, but that's a lot of money so for now I'm looking at other options. I assume there are no places that offer interior trim for these cars either? Seems like I will be doing a lot of scavenging for this project.

Also, would someone be able to move this thread into the Member Projects section?

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A 1975 road runner would have the same floor pan. I don't think you'd have much difficulty in swapping in the '74 style either.
 
Whether or not the 5.7 was an over the shelf part, they must have made some available to dealers for warranty purposes. After all, they've been out since 2003 and some must have been needed. If you meant 'VCT', for Variable Camshaft Timing, that should be on any engine since 2008. You'd have to find out the year of that short block. Are you changing from your plan of using the 6.4?

I don't know if the kijiji engine is a good deal or not, you still have to get the top end to finish it. I'd get a complete engine.

-=Photon440=-
 
Photon440 said:
Whether or not the 5.7 was an over the shelf part, they must have made some available to dealers for warranty purposes. After all, they've been out since 2003 and some must have been needed. If you meant 'VCT', for Variable Camshaft Timing, that should be on any engine since 2008. You'd have to find out the year of that short block. Are you changing from your plan of using the 6.4?

I don't know if the kijiji engine is a good deal or not, you still have to get the top end to finish it. I'd get a complete engine.

-=Photon440=-
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Right, VCT is what I meant. I just got a reply and they said it's an 06 replacement. I was trying to avoid VCT since it seems like most engine management systems are not compatible with it yet. I was also leaning towards a short block since I wasn't sure what accessories I would need\would work in my application at the time. (Oil pan and things like that). I'm not sure how much modification will need to be done to my car if I stick with the factory k-frame.

I was initially leaning towards the 6.4, but figured I could use the extra cash for other things on the car like suspension. It would probably be way cheaper to stick with the stock suspension, but I've been checking out the Alterkation setups which are quite tempting. I'm all for anything that improves handling since I plan to use the Coronet as my daily driver. (Or whenever there isn't snow on the ground).

The one thing I don't understand, is the package below is for 66 - 72 B Body's. Would any of their packages work with my 75? Or would I be looking at further modifications to the car? I'm not against modifications, but it's obviously an added cost since I'll be farming out most of the work to a shop.

http://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16183&cat=269&page=1

If I use a factory computer from an 09+ Hemi vehicle, would I be able to utilize VCT? Reason I ask is because I have found this crate from Mopar Performance which seems to be a great deal: http://www.moparperformanceonline.com/p-1269-mopar-57l-eagle-crate-engine-372-hp.aspx

EDIT: Apparently they won't have any available until December. They literally just changed that today. Before it said May, 2013.

It appears that is just the engine though and I'd still need to purchase a harness and computer separately. I'm fine with that since I'm more worried about fitting the engine\transmission into the car right now, and wiring it up later. Essentially I want to get the ole' girl running and driving with the lowest cost possible. However, I'm sure there are areas that I wouldn't want to cheap out on. I just haven't found them yet. I know I'd be happy running a 5.7 with 372 HP.
 
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Starting in 1973, the suspension was changed. 'Torsion-Quiet Ride System' was in the B-bodies for that year, so I'd imagine the changes are the reason for that handling package stopping at 1972.
 
Photon440 said:
Starting in 1973, the suspension was changed. 'Torsion-Quiet Ride System' was in the B-bodies for that year, so I'd imagine the changes are the reason for that handling package stopping at 1972.
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I see. So if I wanted to upgrade the stock suspension on my 75 for better handling, where would be a good place to start looking? I'm not looking for all out racing performance, but I want something better than stock that can handle every day driving.

Do you think header clearance will really be that big of a deal with the stock k-frame\suspension setup?
 
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I just found a great deal on a 5.7 Hemi (complete engine) at an auto wrecker about an hour from here. Unfortunately, it's a 2008 which from what I understand would have VCT. Though some sources are stating 2009 and up.

EDIT: It appears the truck hemi's didn't receive VCT until 2009, but the car hemi's received it in 2008. Would someone be able to verify this for me?

Here is what the description states:

2008 Engine Dodge Truck 1500
36,000 KM (22,356 Miles), COMP 175 - 185, 55 PSI Oil.

They are asking $2250. I just sent them an email to confirm the year of the engine.
I also found a Tremec 6 speed manual from a 2011 Dodge Challenger for $1500 with 5000 KM on it.
 
I think you could spend a whole pile of money on custom suspension, but besides bragging rights at the car show, there wouldn't be much advantage to it. My opinion is that you would be bucks ahead by optimizing what the Mopar engineers put in there. Tubular control arms are a good upgrade, stiffer t-bars, better shocks and bushings all around, even AirRide.
If you read some period literature and/or enthusiast magazines from the 70s you'll notice that in apples to apples comparisons the torsion bar suspended Mopars usually come out on top in handling and ride catagories. The stock setups are always a compromise, not everybody likes the same thing. But there's lots of components and plenty of latitude to tailor yours' to fit you without redesigning the whole bizness. Whatever you decide, it'll be cool because its different, and because its all yours.
 
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I think you could spend a whole pile of money on custom suspension, but besides bragging rights at the car show, there wouldn't be much advantage to it. My opinion is that you would be bucks ahead by optimizing what the Mopar engineers put in there. Tubular control arms are a good upgrade, stiffer t-bars, better shocks and bushings all around, even AirRide.
If you read some period literature and/or enthusiast magazines from the 70s you'll notice that in apples to apples comparisons the torsion bar suspended Mopars usually come out on top in handling and ride catagories. The stock setups are always a compromise, not everybody likes the same thing. But there's lots of components and plenty of latitude to tailor yours' to fit you without redesigning the whole bizness. Whatever you decide, it'll be cool because its different, and because its all yours.
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Thanks, this is very helpful and exactly what I was looking for. I realized that a lot of my initial concerns stemmed from reading about A-Body fitment of the HEMI block (having to replace the power steering box with a manual) onto the factory K-Frame. Looks like I will be good to go with the B-Body and I'm sure I will be more than happy with the optimized stock suspension. Hopefully headers won't be a problem, but the shop I'm likely to go with here does custom headers if need be.
 
It's easy to be dazzled by car magazines and thier hawking of the latest gimcrackery. They have advertisers and it seems like anymore thier only job is to sell expensive parts and components...they make it seem like you can't be a player without company xyz's latest product. Upgraded engine, trans, its all money well spent...they improve drivability, which is what you seem to be after, as am I. The high-dollar cars shown in the magazines are built by high dollar dudes with the help of sponsers and often somebody else's money. Trying to emulate thier professional and subsidized efforts will result in an overly deflated bank account and frustration. I'm not saying you can't do it, or that your efforts would be subpar or inferior, just saying that realistic goals, and meeting those goals will give way more satisfaction in the end.
 
I completely agree. That's why I've been doing so much research over the past year before I jump head first into this project. Finding out how I can meet my needs without spending a small fortune. I still have much to learn, but I'm getting there. It's great to hear everyone's advice and first hand experiences.

I have another question for whoever is able to answer. This question is regarding transmission options. I think I'd like to go with a manual and would love to take advantage of a double OD by using a 6 speed. If I end up getting this truck HEMI, would I be able to use a TR-6060 from a Challenger? I see the manual rams used a NV5600 transmission. What would the main difference be? Would I have to do anything to the HEMI computer? In either case I know there will be some serious fabrication needed. I'm totally fine with that seeing as I have no intentions of keeping this car original or selling it anytime soon (if ever).

Also, I've heard a few people talk about speed sensors in relation to their HEMI swap. Since I will want all aftermarket gauges, how will I go about getting a signal to whichever speedometer I choose?
 
Forget the NV5600. That 360 pound lump has a 5.63 first gear which would be useless for you. I don't know the size, but it's large and not built for high rpm shifting.
 
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Forget the NV5600. That 360 pound lump has a 5.63 first gear which would be useless for you. I don't know the size, but it's large and not built for high rpm shifting.
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Good to know. From what I've been reading, it seems that a lot of people prefer the T-56 Magnum over the TR-6060 due to the fact that it's aftermarket and offers both types of speed sensors and the option for different shifter locations.
 
If I was to look for a T-56 from a wrecker, what are some vehicles I could include in my search? I know that certain year Vipers used it before switching to the TR-6060.
 
Welcome to the site. Be careful with the advise you get from all the american hillbillys you will end with your car looking like the flinstone mobile. JK.
 
Thanks superfreak. And thanks Photon for the link. I may have found an even better deal on a HEMI. It's a 5.7 from a 2004 Ram 1500 and has 31,000 KM on it. 5000 KM fewer than the 2008 I was looking at, and I will for sure have no MDS or VCT to deal with. I just emailed them for a quote. Hopefully it's not much over $2000. It's also very close to me (Kamloops). Fingers crossed!
 
So I found a 2005 Ram ECU for $125 from a local truck parts shop. They have a few of them. Does that seem like a reasonable price considering I will need to get it flashed for a manual trans and to disable whatever else I need to make it work in a custom scenario? (Disabling security or whatever).

I was just curious because I see that Hotwire Auto sells new computers for $700 which seems a bit high for my liking. Would they be one of the only options for having an ECU flashed? Any idea how much they charge for just a flash? Do the aftermarket computer programmers (Diablosport etc...) have the ability to turn off auto trans\security features (skim I think it's called?). I might be able to find someone with a tuner around here.

EDIT: Did some reading up on SKIM and looks like I will need someone like B & G performance to flash the computer for my purpose. Was SKIM an option on Ram trucks? It would be awesome if I could find a manual 2005 truck computer without SKIM, but how would I ever figure that out?
 
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