SUPERSTOCKRACER
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if you plan on making any power, just use a different brand period.Eagle, K1, Callies,Crower,Scat.
440Source?
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wedgie
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flywheel
I am wondering about the quality of their flywheels. They advertize a 10 1/2" for $100.00. supposed to have weights that can be bolted on for different balance configurations. My original flywheel is in pretty bad shape. Sure would like to hear from someone who is using one. I have grown pretty attached to my feet.
I am wondering about the quality of their flywheels. They advertize a 10 1/2" for $100.00. supposed to have weights that can be bolted on for different balance configurations. My original flywheel is in pretty bad shape. Sure would like to hear from someone who is using one. I have grown pretty attached to my feet.
67coronetman
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Well for me dealing with 440 source was very bad they where rude short and acted like they had all the power so i have since only use mancini racing , hughes racing check out the stroker kits and hensley racing in knoxville tn i don't mean to sound like every one else is wrong i have just made my choice to only use these company and have had great luck.!
500dodge
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I built a 500stroker kit for my 74 Dart bracket car used everything from 440 source except for the cam and lifters and we changed the springs on the stealth heads and I now have over 100 passes on the car no problems , It's only a 10.5 car but it's lots of fun!! The motor dynod at 630 Hp , wich I was happy with, I am going to take it apart this winter to see how things are ...keep you posted!
SUPERSTOCKRACER
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1badgtx
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The original owner sold out a few years ago...I have some of their products on my car...I see alot of their stuff at sacramento raceway...I say they sell good stuff...The old guys will tell you it,s all made in china crap,spend the extra dough and get the usa stuff...For me it,s how much money I got to spend...When I build a stroker motor for my gtx it,ll be their stuff...I,m not rich thats for sure.I don,t race for money just for fun...
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ky509
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Reading these posts makes one ponder heavily about just what is the truth? Is it Good 440 source parts with terrible diy mechanics? Is it parts that just need a little tweaking and again not so great diy mechanics and a little common sense would go a long ways? Could it be great 440 source parts and just flat out terrible mechanics who should never pick up a wrench? Or are the 440 source parts junk with a capitol J and every one on here a mechanical wizzard.
I have worked in automitive machine shops, speed shops, garages. I retired from my own automotive operation of over 27 years just recently. I use to work in manufacturing years ago servicing Ford, Gm, John Deere, IH and others in the automotive industries. So I have been around and seen a lot. And here is the fact of the matter. I do not care what you are making and selling to the public, There is a level of quality you must meet in order to sell a part that is top quality in fit form and function with an acceptable life expectancy within the boundries of how the part is to be used or being used, period. So, with all that being said the old addage of you get what you pay for, still and always will hold true.
Now, with all that being said before one lays the cash ola down for an engine part that you know very well is going into an engine assembly that is going to cost you an arm and leg, do you want to pay with in 10 to 20 percent of a known good quality part for a possible sub standard head part that very well may drop a valve and destroy your investment and all your hard work? I guess if you plan on easing your 440ci over to the local car show and back cheap parts are acceptable, maybe? But, if you intend on running some 12 second passes along with burn outs at the local strip, are you really willing to take a chance on the possible substandard parts. Again You get what you pay for, most of the time. The fact of the matter is even your top of the line manufactureres can have problems and you accidentally get the bad part built on monday when every one is hung over. The problem with the performance market is there are generally no written warranties, the norm is, "AS IS NO WARRANTY" especially in the race industry. What is needed is a forum where every issue with ever mfg in the after market performance industry is vetted. If Joe Blow buys a brand X head and after 10 hrs the keepers start pulling through the retainers go to the forum and put it in print, these entries will mount up. People who sell sub standard anything hate for their junk to be exposed. This type of web site is great for exposing some of the crap that is out in the world but I don`t think they have the teeth that a desiginated site for junk manufactures would have. these posts are scattered. I am curretnly building an authentic 69 superbee and my next part of the build is coming up, engine and trans. I would love to be able to go to these types of sites and find a thread with engine parts mfg`s listed with the parts Quality being the sole issue and have a couple hundred good solid honest entries to read.
I have worked in automitive machine shops, speed shops, garages. I retired from my own automotive operation of over 27 years just recently. I use to work in manufacturing years ago servicing Ford, Gm, John Deere, IH and others in the automotive industries. So I have been around and seen a lot. And here is the fact of the matter. I do not care what you are making and selling to the public, There is a level of quality you must meet in order to sell a part that is top quality in fit form and function with an acceptable life expectancy within the boundries of how the part is to be used or being used, period. So, with all that being said the old addage of you get what you pay for, still and always will hold true.
Now, with all that being said before one lays the cash ola down for an engine part that you know very well is going into an engine assembly that is going to cost you an arm and leg, do you want to pay with in 10 to 20 percent of a known good quality part for a possible sub standard head part that very well may drop a valve and destroy your investment and all your hard work? I guess if you plan on easing your 440ci over to the local car show and back cheap parts are acceptable, maybe? But, if you intend on running some 12 second passes along with burn outs at the local strip, are you really willing to take a chance on the possible substandard parts. Again You get what you pay for, most of the time. The fact of the matter is even your top of the line manufactureres can have problems and you accidentally get the bad part built on monday when every one is hung over. The problem with the performance market is there are generally no written warranties, the norm is, "AS IS NO WARRANTY" especially in the race industry. What is needed is a forum where every issue with ever mfg in the after market performance industry is vetted. If Joe Blow buys a brand X head and after 10 hrs the keepers start pulling through the retainers go to the forum and put it in print, these entries will mount up. People who sell sub standard anything hate for their junk to be exposed. This type of web site is great for exposing some of the crap that is out in the world but I don`t think they have the teeth that a desiginated site for junk manufactures would have. these posts are scattered. I am curretnly building an authentic 69 superbee and my next part of the build is coming up, engine and trans. I would love to be able to go to these types of sites and find a thread with engine parts mfg`s listed with the parts Quality being the sole issue and have a couple hundred good solid honest entries to read.
jeff caudill
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Amen!!
Satellite70
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The problem with such a web site is that you never know the truth, we have had sites over here were you could rate and comment on pc and laptop sellers and it turned out that one of the sellers had people they knew to rate them good.
But if we could get a site were we could trust the comments it would be good.
And im not saying that anyone here is lieing.
But if we could get a site were we could trust the comments it would be good.
And im not saying that anyone here is lieing.
2quick
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Opinions are like a$$holes everybody’s got one, let’s stick to facts. The fact that you spent more money for say an eagle, Hughes, Scat, or Crower rotating assembly doesn’t mean the 440 source stuff is ****. I would like to hear honest reviews from people who are either running their stuff or people who know people running their stuff. Let’s leave opinions out.
696pack
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If you talk to machine shops that do a lot of high performance work they will tell you that you better check ALL new parts for true weather they are Americian made or otherwise. Quality has slipped in nearly ALL manufacturing these days. Any imperfection will of course be amplified under extreme condition as in racing a car.
dantrap
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I have not had any problems with there stroker kit. Have not used there heads or other parts. Used 2 of there mech. distributors with out problems.
ky509
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"Opinions are like a$$holes everybody’s got one," I give you that. However I hope I did not mis lead you into thinking I was particlarly suggesting we should develope a site for opinions only or for any opinions period. If this is what you took away from my post I appologize for the un-clarity. To be clear and to preven further confusion I will attempt to make my idea more clear.
If we had such a site, the reader would have to self police him\her self in reading only factual entries. If one chooses to look at opinions and his purchases based on opinions then god help him, as he is probably going to buy a lot of garbage.
What we would be looking for is something like the following examples.
Example A, Buyers screen name followed by, I bought a pair of brand X heads. These heads have been on my 440 ci engine for 2 years now and completely problem free. I have used my engine not only on the street but also turned in some eleven second runs at the local drag strip. Period end of post!
Example B, Buyers screen name followed by, I bought a set of brand Y heads. These heads had retainer failure the first week I used my car. After investigation I found that the locks were plling through the retainrs. Period end of post.
Example C, Buyers screen name followed by. I work in a machine shop. In the past year out of fifty sets of brand X heads that we have reworked we found only one head that was crackedl. But out of Fifty sets of brand Y heads we found ten that had cracked between the valve seats and eight that the guides were not properly drilled and aligned from the manufactre. End of Example
Lets face it, there are ways to scam any thing and no site will be fool proof. However , I believe with the vast amout of honest gear heads using these sites, we would get a real good idea of who is selling junk and who has the good stuff for the dollar. Personally I am not that interested in any ones opinion. I think I have been around long enough to be able to sort out the good from the bad if I can get a list of actual pro``s and cons from the users of the various types of parts out there on the market. Face it. The user of such a site would also have to have enough common sense so as to properly use such a site.
So Opinions would actually not be welcome. Just the facts my friend just the facts.
Something every one needs to be aware of is that just because we post these remarks on line does not mean that we can skirt the law and slander some company or it`s product with untruths. A poster is still responsible for his words and can probably be prosecuited for slanderous comments.
I had an actual experience on an on line auction. The seller first sold me a very bad product. When I complained he then publicly slandered me and posted untrue comments about me. When I got through with this not very smart person\ business owner, it had costed and dearly. We are all responsible for our words and statements.
I hope this helps.
Ed
ky509
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Who`s parts are you refering to?
72Satellite440
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440SOURCE
I havent had anything bad either but Ive heard about some bad cooling stories,,,from their housing/pump-
But for stuff like brackets and a pulley , - everything worked well
drgnrydr
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I have a 440 -512 kit with indy heads & intake comp roller cam harland sharp rockers & my motor was just dynoed @ 722 hp , my engine builder who ran it was really impressed with the stuff i took to him , I upgraded the rod bolts had the rotaing assy balanced by 440 source & had it rebalanced by my guy with a fliuddamper . Hell i was so happy I even called 440 source & told the about it & faxed the dyno run to them , I have a dominator on it now & getting a stealth carb that he assures me will out perform the holley . hopin with the new carb & a aeromotive vacuum pump I will be in the 770 hp range !!! I took a video of the whole run Hell yeah 440 source will make hp !!!
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