65' Coronet Convertible with a 383 - was it originally a 383?

[Liepins]

Good morning from Latvia, Europe,

I want to get a B-body Mopar and found this 65' Dodge Coronet Convertible with a 383 but I can't figure out whether it was a Coronet 500 or a Coronet 440 because as I understand - all Coronet Convertibles in 1965 were either 500 or 440, right? There were no base model convertibles? This one doesn't have either 500 or 440 fender tags on it. And also I asked salesman to send me a photo of engine date code - that way I can tell if the engine could be it's original 383 engine (from the week and year of manufacture of the engine). But can you tell from pictures if this could be a period correct 383 engine? Seller says that this Coronet has the original 383.

And do you notice anything unoriginal done to the car apart from aftermarket tacho, Magnaflow exhaust system, Mopar Performance valve covers and radio?

Also what would be the approximate price for such a 65' Coronet Convertible 383 in great condition in United States? Seller in Germany is asking $24'850 for it but probably negotiable.

Thanks!

 

[Liepins]

Some more pics...

 

[493 Mike]

Master cylinder, subframe connectors, and voltage regulator are not OEM. I think asking price is fair.
Mike

 

[Big Bad Dad]

That has Coronet 500 trim, tail light and trunk panel, and seats. Looks like a 500, just missing the 500 emblems to me. But those things on the hood are not correct. All 65 Coronets had plain flat top hoods.

 

[Liepins]

Browsing on web - surprisingly I found an auction where this exact one was for sale in United States: http://davidsclassiccars.com/dodge/160148-1965-dodge-coronet-500-convertible-383-4-speed.html

It seems that originally it was a 3-speed auto.

Unfortunately there is no price shown for how much was it sold, but I see that engine has been pretty heavily modified including that Mercury hood scoop:
"Rebuilt 383 w TRW Forged Pistons, 268 Summit Cam, 452 Heads, Dual Plane Intake, Holley 650 Double Pumper, Mopar Electronic Ignition, Headers Coated with Eastwood Paint through NEW Magnaflow 2.5" with correct style Turndowns.
NewAluminum Radiator.
Correct 4 Speed Parts 10.5", New flywheel, Clutch, rebuild 69 A833 4 speed. Max Wedge Shifter.
8 3/4 with GreenBearingsw Driver 294 Open rear.
Slider Type 11" Disc Conversion, All New lines, Combo and adj Prop Valve."

What do you think of these mods - will the car be dependable/reliable with these mods?

 

[Don Frelier]

The 383 fender emblems are from 66/67.
Many of these modifications are "performance" enhancements but nothing crazy that should affect longevity.
the brakes are nice (cause you need good brakes)
But the downside of the modifications is that its now not original so if you have failures you can't necessarily look up the part at at parts store or online.
You need to get the block stamping to see if it's the original block but with all the other changes I think it makes little difference in the value or desirability of the car.

 

[khryslerkid]

Verify it's really for sale and not a scammer first. If you do a Google search on the first picture it's on several sites from the past. Early ones being from Maryland (USA) and this one saying it's in Florida on a UK site. Same description and wording.

https://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=332808

 

[Fran Blacker]

That $24,500 USD or Euro's? USD fair price Euro's a little high. MO.
Vacuum advance hose to carb not hooked up, why? Missing lower trim, wheel well lower rocker trim behind front wheel to rear wheel think there is a piece behind rear wheel. If those don't matter to no big deal. If you want them BIG money here where you are HUGE money. Each piece it the hundreds of dollars. MO.

 

[Fran Blacker]

Great advive KK!

 

[MoparDanMan]

Good morning from Latvia, Europe,

I want to get a B-body Mopar and found this 65' Dodge Coronet Convertible with a 383 but I can't figure out whether it was a Coronet 500 or a Coronet 440 because as I understand - all Coronet Convertibles in 1965 were either 500 or 440, right? There were no base model convertibles? This one doesn't have either 500 or 440 fender tags on it. And also I asked salesman to send me a photo of engine date code - that way I can tell if the engine could be it's original 383 engine (from the week and year of manufacture of the engine). But can you tell from pictures if this could be a period correct 383 engine? Seller says that this Coronet has the original 383.

And do you notice anything unoriginal done to the car apart from aftermarket tacho, Magnaflow exhaust system, Mopar Performance valve covers and radio?

Also what would be the approximate price for such a 65' Coronet Convertible 383 in great condition in United States? Seller in Germany is asking $24'850 for it but probably negotiable.

Thanks!

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It appears to have some customizations, but it looks like a solid car. Since you used a leading $ I'll assume it's in dollars, so the price is not bad. I wouldn't send any money without actually seeing the car first. There's to many scams out there.

 

[haywire 440]

It appears to have some customizations, but it looks like a solid car. Since you used a leading $ I'll assume it's in dollars, so the price is not bad. I wouldn't send any money without actually seeing the car first. There's to many scams out there.

Having an appraiser company look it over is one way to get an eye on it. Worth the money and you get a detailed report. Nice looking car, good luck!

 

[YY1]

Fender tag should show the original engine size.

 

[Liepins]

Price I wrote is in USD. In Euros it is 21500 EUR.

YY1, as I understood from Don Frelier, then this car shouldn't even have fender tags because it is a 65' and fender tags started from 66'/67'.

Here is the advert for this 65' Coronet in one of Germany's biggest used car sale sites mobile.de: https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/...searchId=6af0c025-1e75-7b9e-eeb6-ee689466c9d3

It is located in Maintal, Germany.

I am afraid that this example is a bit too modified for my taste (and missing some pieces as well) as I want to keep the cars originality as much as possible.

 

[Don Frelier]

65 Coronets never had a 383 4-Barrel emblem as far as I know.
Either V-8 or HEMI

 

[YY1]

It should have a fender tag although it decodes different than the easy to find 68-74.

Someone from the 62-65 crowd should be able to help.

The engine code is a 2 digit sequence below the a and b.

 

[FU64RY]

Price I wrote is in USD. In Euros it is 21500 EUR.

YY1, as I understood from Don Frelier, then this car shouldn't even have fender tags because it is a 65' and fender tags started from 66'/67'.

Here is the advert for this 65' Coronet in one of Germany's biggest used car sale sites mobile.de: https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/...searchId=6af0c025-1e75-7b9e-eeb6-ee689466c9d3

It is located in Maintal, Germany.

I am afraid that this example is a bit too modified for my taste (and missing some pieces as well) as I want to keep the cars originality as much as possible.

LOL.................. THEY ALL HAD FENDER TAGS................RUN AND RUN FAST... KK IS RIGHT ON.

 

[Slap Stick]

65 s had the engine callout on the hood ornament instead of the fender. Iirc no callout was 225/273/318.