66 hemi belvedere,is this a good price?

[1badgtx]

Got a friend that has a 66 hemi belvedere..It,s a 4 speed car and in really good shape...he has had it for years...It,s not the original engine but still is correct...How much is it worth?He,s asking 35,000.00...Damn if I had the dough I know i,d buy it...He has other cars all mopars for sale.He also has a 64 dodge with a hemi that he was racing on sunday...If the belvedere is as nice as his race car it has to be worth more than 35 g,s...I,m gonna try to meet up with the guy on sunday and see for myself what he has...Parts and all...Let me know if anyone is SERIOUSLY interested...Please no tire kickers!!!
Petty Blue 67 GTX
I,d rather push a PLYMOUTH than drive a ford...:headbang:

 

[1badgtx]

Wow no comments...I,m surprised!!!
Petty Blue 67 GTX

 

[69 Runner]

I'd own it

 

[djwhog]

Any pics yet of the car?

 

[1badgtx]

Pics will be posted asap//

Petty Blue 67 GTX

 

[BLWN1]

How nice is it, pm me info...

 

[francis]

66 hemi belvedere,

any pictures. thanks

 

[S.I. Coronet]

Wow no comments...I,m surprised!!!
Petty Blue 67 GTX

OK I got a question, What does this mean???

.It,s not the original engine but still is correct

 

[dbowperson]

Could be a warranty block or a rebuilt original hemi, or could be a crate. More info and pics would help, but the price does not seem to bad.

 

[1badgtx]

Wow no comments meant it was posted for for at least a couple hours with no comments...I thought you guys would be jumping at it...If I had the money it would be sitting in my garage!!
Petty Blue 67 GTX

 

[John426]

No Numbers on 66 Blocks .....

OK I got a question, What does this mean???

Oh boy .....

What it means (the comment about not being the original engine, but correct) is the seller is being very honest!!

There are no VIN or SO numbers stamped on blocks in 66. Best you can do is match up the casting date of the block, build date of the engine with the schedduled build date of the car and hope they all line up.

SO, all you can verify is the dates on a 66 Hemi car. Seller is being very honest about saying it is not the original engine, there would be no way to verify that if he claimed otherwise and the dates lined up!

 

[S.I. Coronet]

Not to argue much, because I really don't care, but the word correct has no meaning if it doesn't mean the original engine block.
What is the word "correct" mean???

 

[superbyrd]

there is alot of difference in the term correct. in the instants of this car,it says,not the original engine,but correct. as said,could be a date code correct 66 hemi,or not. it would be like having a 69 roadrunner,that the original 383 was missing,but had say a date code correct 69 383 magnum in it's place. the term means alot when talking about important cars like 383hp,440,440-6 and hemi cars. unlike ordinary examples where as stated "original,numbers matching 318 or slant 6" and nobody cares or gives a crap.

 

[1badgtx]

I,m still working on it guys...The photos will be up soon...
Petty Blue 67 GTX

 

[Cranky]

I think people make too much out of the numbers matching stuff. IF the car is 'correct', meaning it's just like the way it came from the factory, so what if the engine isn't original. When you restore a car, you replace dang near everything on it but yet it's still numbers matching? No, it ain't anymore. The drive line may be numbers matching but nothing else is. So, if the drive line matches the VIN but nothing else that came on the car is there anymore, then it's ok?

 

[1badgtx]

Cranky I think you are correct...We are not talking chevys matching numbers here..They say that 90% of the cars that people sale as matching number cars are not what they are as advertised...If the car was an original 4 speed hemi car and has a period correct motor then it is as advertised..A true 4 speed hemi car..The guy with the car has raced and owned mopars for over 40 years...He is no spring chicken to the mopar world as most of us are... I cannot wait to see his shop and his multiple cars...I,ll post plenty of pics of what he has for sale when I touch bases with the guy...I,m sure he has parts galore also...Hopefully we can get you gys hooked up as I don,t have the cash for more toys and parts..
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[S.I. Coronet]

I think people make too much out of the numbers matching stuff. IF the car is 'correct', meaning it's just like the way it came from the factory, so what if the engine isn't original. When you restore a car, you replace dang near everything on it but yet it's still numbers matching? No, it ain't anymore.

As long as the piece you didn't replace has a VIN number on it its OK, like the rad support, trunk lip behind the heater box, and the engine, trans.
How would you like to buy a car that had the matching 26 inch rad support replaced by a 22 inch support , numbers matching means everything unless you like spending money on a pieced togather wreck? I wouldn't if that isn't what I was knowingly paying for.

The drive line may be numbers matching but nothing else is. So, if the drive line matches the VIN but nothing else that came on the car is there anymore, then it's ok?

yes, because if it was a 318 car and now has a 440, do you want to pay the 318 price or the 440?

 

[superbyrd]

hmmmm. thats funny.
wonder why a super bee,missing it's "numbers matching,correct" engine and trans,etc. is worth more money to folks,than a "numbers matching,correct,etc" 318 coronet in great shape???? because......nobody cares about the numbers matching 318 car. except,as a use for a clone or to upgrade it to more power or what ever. just the nature of the hobby. if you have a rusty,crusty,numbers matching 318 or slant 6 car............thats all you got. it's worth what anyone wants to pay for it,as a project for an upgrade. don't know of,ever heard of,or seen a single person,who found a "numbers matching",correct,etc,etc slant 6 or 318 car, and started jumping around and sreaming like a giddy school girl,because of the way that car came equipped. period.ever.
now, find even a roadrunner,super bee,R/T,etc. even missing it's "numbers matching" engine,but has a "correct" date coded 383,440,hemi in it,and the whole story is different. and so is the price.
i am not a fan of the sometimes too high prices of our beloved cars either. but,if you are debating paying the "318 price or the 440 price". doesn't really matter does it? hope you can pay the 318 price. even though it's got a 440 in it,thats still all you got is a "318 car".
like it or not,this gentlemans belvedere,with even just that right VIN digit denoting that it began life as a hemi car,makes that car,even if it was a rusty heap of pooh,worth aloooooooooot more money,than the same belvedere in excellent condition,with a slant six or 318. numbers matching correct,of course......even.

 

[S.I. Coronet]

even though it's got a 440 in it,thats still all you got is a "318 car".

my point above.
And also a numbers matching hemi car is worth more than a non numbers matching car, or would you pay the same price? I wouldn't.

318 coronet in great shape???? because......nobody cares about the numbers matching 318 car. except,as a use for a clone or to upgrade it to more power or what ever.

I don't know if thats a jab at my car or not but the only reason i put 318 in it is because im not spending a boat load of money on an over priced big block for no longer than I want to keep the car which is over lived its visit!

 

[superbyrd]

no jabs bro. just saying the cars proposed price doesn't seem bad. yes,if it were matching numbers,it would bring more,but,regardless,if it started life as a hemi car,and has a hemi in it now,whether we like it or not,she is still way out of most of our price ranges. if it had a 318 or slant 6 in it now,it would still be worth a boatload more than a regular belvedere,with out that VIN digit.
your car will sell,just give it some time. the markets a little soft in some areas,everybody is hunting for a steal. be patient grasshopper........