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727 tranny fluid and engine oil?

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Hey guys the other day i was able to see my car after the snow melted and i was tinkering with it, checked both my trans and engine oil, So my first question is my tranny could use alittle oil and i was wondering what type does it take? Of course the books at the shop only went back to 93' lol I searched online and read A727 takes Type F? Also just want to make sure but the A in A727 stands for auto? or does it mean a different model? My next question when i checked the levels of my engine oil it had white milky color too it and my dad said that means water has gotten in, But i'm wondering if it is just moisture from the snow melting or if there is a crack somewhere or something?:icon_sad:
 
The original spec up to '71 was a fluid called "Type A, Suffix A", which was superseded by Dexron in 1972. The latest variety of Dexron is Dexron VI; a good brand of that will be fine. Me, I use Chrysler Mopar ATF+4 in my old Torqueflites; it is a superior fluid to earlier Dexron formulations but the newest Dexron is much superior to the older Dexrons, and the older Dexrons were plenty adequate for a Torqueflite. Type F is not correct -- never was -- though some people use it in the belief that the harder shifts it causes are "better". Fact is, Type F is an ancient fluid, inferior in every respect to any Dexron.

The "A" before the 727 is irrelevant. There is no difference between a "727" and an "A727", it's just two different ways of referring to the transmission.

Your dad is right about the milky appearance of the fluid. Usually this is a result of a leaking trans fluid cooler in the radiator's bottom tank. You may also find trans fluid in the coolant. You need to find and fix the problem and change the trans fluid and filter right away. Be sure to drain all the fluid; there's a drain plug on the front of the torque converter, too, accessible behind the sheetmetal cover at the bottom front of the bellhousing, behind the engine oil pan.

Use the newest reusable triple-seal pan gasket; the floppy one that comes with the new filter is much more likely to leak. You get the good pan gasket from a dealer; P/N is 2464 324AB . While you are in the transmission, you'll want to adjust the bands.

But step number one is to find and fix the water leak.
 
Thanks for all the info! Actually it's the engine oil that has the milky problem noticed it on the dipstick, the trans fluid looks good just alittle on the low side.
 
i wouldnt agree with "Type F is inferior in every respect to any Dexron" .... 2 diff types of fluids.... those of us who race regularly use Type F, have been for years ....if it is a stock build trans, i also would use ATF+4 ....
 
The milky white could just be condensation in the oil.Change the oil and see what happens.
 
The milky white could just be condensation in the oil.Change the oil and see what happens.

yup. some form of moisture.

IMHO i wud do an oil change before firin' that puppy up. sounds like she's been sittin' a little while, and the oil is pretty well drained from the motor. good fresh, oil is ALWAYS a good thing. filler up, maybe sacrifice a qt of oil to flush it out (with the oil plug out on the oil pan, of course). then check your level after you start the motor.

After you get it warm, and you still have chocolate colored, milky oil, then you probably have to look at the head gaskets...


I don't know much about transmissions though...:sleepy2::popcorn:
My GTX bangs through them nice and hard (that's what SHE said! lol), and she's been red, clear, and full every time i've looked at the fluid, so i haven't touched it...
 
Type F was used in older Fords but can be used in a TF if you do a complete changeover - i.e. don't mix. Dexron has better lubricating properties than type F while type F has a better friction coefficient, which is the reason most racers like it. For a driver I'd use Dexron. And speaking of ancient, I believe type A was old when dirt was new. It also has whale oil in it so you know that's probably illegal now. I heard you can get it at WalMart and that's good news for convertible owners as the hydraulics require type A.

Chocolate milk in the crankcase means water for sure. Like Mar said, dump the oil (water) before you fire it up. Then run it around a bit and see if the chocolate milk comes back. If it does then that might be worth investigating further. I'll hope for the best.
 
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