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73-74 RoadRunner hoods

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I've noticed that some 73 and 74 RoadRunner hoods have a small surface vent area at both rear corners of the bulge (above the windshield wiper area). My 74 does not have these vents. Can someone explain?

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He's referring to the cowl vents in the hood, up by the windshield...

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73 has them, 74 doesn't.

Same on Chargers.

Also 73 has windshield washer nozzels on the hood, 74 has them on the wipers.
 
What YY1 said. The vents were made in 73 to allow better air flow into the fresh air vents, but they also allowed in debris that would get wet and create rust issues so they went away in 74.
 
How'd they know they'd cause rust within a year?:icon_winkle: I remember back in the late 80s in high school my 73 RR became a chipper shredder when I zipped to 100mph. The floorboard filled with leaves.

I sold a 73 RR hood this past weekend. I kept the 74 hood to put on my 73 Sat later. It just looks smoother plus in better shape.
 
This is one of the few differences between the 73 and 74 models other than some minor soft trim and engine choices. 73 was the last year of the 340.

Personally, I like the vents but agree that you need to keep the upper cowl clean and keep a look out for rust........

hoods come up on eBay and I would but a request up on this site for whichever hood you decide you want. I'm sure you'll get a bunch of responses.

bruzilla is correct.... The 73 is somewhat different than the 74. Mainly due to regulatory and some production issues. However, I am sure he agrees that they are EXTREMELY similar with about 98 % carryover from the previous year.

He is exactly correct in that the 70 and 71 are very different from their 73/74 cousins. Advertising went from performance oriented ( rapid transit system) to " extra care in engineering"

the 73/74 were still available with many of the performance options (although engines were somewhat detuned with lowered compression ratios and integral modifications to the intakes for better emissions).

The front suspensions on the 73/74 are actually modeled on the c new yorkers and y body imperials.....much smoother riding than their predecessors. I believe that their compliant suspension actually helps the handling by better control of rebound.

Hope this helps....never be to proud to accept correction
 
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How'd they know they'd cause rust within a year?:icon_winkle:

Probably wasn't hard. I know this area was also an issue with 71/72 cars as well. Since it's located on the top of the car it didn't have the attention to rust prevention the underside got, and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some areas of the void left unpainted during manufacturing, which would cause rust to form very quickly. Whatever happened it was significant enough to warrant paying for an engineering change for a part that was only going to be used for one production year, and Chrysler never liked doing that.

I've also wondered why they changed the trunk floor design between 73/74 and put that hump back there. I think someone told me why they did that years ago, but I can't remember what the reasoning was.

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This is one of the few differences between the 73 and 74 models other than some minor soft trim and engine choices. 73 was the last year of the 340.

Personally, I like the vents but agree that you need to keep the upper cowl clean and keep a look out for rust........

hoods come up on eBay and I would but a request up on this site for whichever hood you decide you want. I'm sure you'll get a bunch of responses.

There's actually quite a few differences. The hood was changed. The front suspension was redesigned. 1974 was the first year for retractable shoulder harnesses, so the interior design was changed to accommodate mounting points for the harness swivels and the retractors, and the quarter panel covers were redesigned into two-piece units instead of a one-piece. 74s also have a hump in the floor of the trunk that 73s don't have, and I'll be danged if I can remember what that hump was intended for. 74 was also supposed to be the first year for the system that prevented the engine from being started without the seat belts being fastened, and had an odd little box under the hood with a button on it that worked as a temporary bypass for mechanics to start the engine. I say supposed to be because I had a 73 road runner that had that system installed even though they weren't supposed to have it.
 
I posted one that is for sale on CL here if any one is listed it's not mine.
 
Thanks to all for your responses. I greatly appreciate your time and wisdom. I hope to soon post some pics of my Beep, Beep car.

Thanks again
 
Probably wasn't hard. I know this area was also an issue with 71/72 cars as well. Since it's located on the top of the car it didn't have the attention to rust prevention the underside got, and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some areas of the void left unpainted during manufacturing, which would cause rust to form very quickly. Whatever happened it was significant enough to warrant paying for an engineering change for a part that was only going to be used for one production year, and Chrysler never liked doing that.

I've also wondered why they changed the trunk floor design between 73/74 and put that hump back there. I think someone told me why they did that years ago, but I can't remember what the reasoning was.

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There's actually quite a few differences. The hood was changed. The front suspension was redesigned. 1974 was the first year for retractable shoulder harnesses, so the interior design was changed to accommodate mounting points for the harness swivels and the retractors, and the quarter panel covers were redesigned into two-piece units instead of a one-piece. 74s also have a hump in the floor of the trunk that 73s don't have, and I'll be danged if I can remember what that hump was intended for. 74 was also supposed to be the first year for the system that prevented the engine from being started without the seat belts being fastened, and had an odd little box under the hood with a button on it that worked as a temporary bypass for mechanics to start the engine. I say supposed to be because I had a 73 road runner that had that system installed even though they weren't supposed to have it.

That little box under the hood keeps you from starting the car when seatbelts not engaged. I bypassed it.

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I got my interior panels for free from a 73 Satellite for my 74 RR. I had to find belt retractor panels separate, then cut the panels for them to fit like the 2 piece 74s. They also have the rear window handle holes. I would like to get rear Satty windows to roll down in it the RR.



The trunk hump is for the reservoir on the 74 tank top. It makes a 74 tank painful to pay for compared to earlier.

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What reservoir is on the fuel tank?

some special vent thing that went to a vapor canister/filter vent under the hood.

I have a canister like that in a 71 Javelin, but nothing weird on the tank.

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The line still goes up by where the horn mounts, but the canister is long gone on the RR.

I would love to see a stock under the hood photo of the canister, horn, etc. in a 74 if anyone has one.
It should be right about there.
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I had the canister on a 74 Sundance Satellite I had a while back. It was about the size of a small coffee can and located in the front-right corner of the engine bay. But didn't the 73 cars also have the canister?
 
I don't know if they had a canister on the 73s or not. Could have. All I know is the gas tank for the 74 went full retard on vapors and also had that hump on top of the fuel tank.
 
Yes, 73's have canister, here are a couple of shots of mine before i took it all apart. The AC line is on top of it and none of the vent lines are connected.

Did someone say they are looking for a 74 hood? I have one.
 

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thanks for the pics. good shot of the overflow bottle placement too! is the horn on a 73 RR same place as a 74?
 
Thanks idrive. I thought I remembered those being on the 73s and 74s. So if they both have the canister, what's under the hump? I'll be replacing my sender unit before too long and I'll have to take some pics of what's up there.
 
Regarding the question about horns, on the 73/74, it can have a single or dual horn, they are located in each corner of the fender and you can see the grey bolt head on the fender of the photo above, that is actually the horn bolt on the passenger side. My car for some reason had dual horns, and if your wiring harness has both you can also do duals. Something else you may notice is my overflow bottle is different than most, as my car has a 28" radiator and so the standard bottle does not work inthis case.
 
So that's why I have squirters on the hood and the wipers.
I've been thinking about setting up a secondary washer syatem and pointing the hood nozzles way high so they shoot over the car and splash tailgaters :icon_fU:
 
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