Any Brake Master Cylinder Not Made In China?

[moparedtn]

If they were OEM Plymouth, I'd happily pay the extortion. But they are 1993 Dodge. I have a 1980s Plymouth set I offered at a fraction of that last year, and got no interest. The one tip I have, came in a 1972 dated box, along with a newer, mismatched one, which I sold. Ended up costing me $90. That won't happen again in my lifetime.

Yep, different part number for Plymouth (2883826). BTW, the parts list I have shows retail on them from Ma at the time
to be $8.70 each.

 

[moparedtn]

An example of this that has been driving me nuts is the NORS Mopar Performance exhaust tips for 68-70 Plymouth B Bodies that were sold in the 80s. The contours are slightly different than the originals, which I have had on four of my cars. It's been seven years since I found my last complete pair. I left the tips on the car when I sold it, for an extra $500. In hindsight, I wish I hadn't. That car had many reproduction parts, but the current one is all OEM, with the exception of a set of chinesium reproduction tips. I have one original run NOS, and I'm probably going to have to sell an organ to get another one. I'm usually not obsessive compulsive, but this one exception has been expensive.

Nice Ed. That would be called NORS (New Old Replacement Stock). I learned about this looking for a replacement oil pump for a '39 GM 216 6 cyl.

NORS parts are end of run automotive parts . The acronym stands for New Old Replacement Stock. The difference between NORS and new old stock (NOS) automotive parts is that they have been made after a certain vehicle has ceased to be manufactured anymore. The parts are identical to NOS parts but were intended as replacements rather than for original use. Since there is a certain obsessive compulsiveness attached to the hobby of collecting, these parts are also worth less than NOS components. Both are obsolete automotive parts but it all comes down to originality in the end.

NOS, NORS and OEM parts: A Collector’s Guide

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NOS = new factory Mopar part (new old stock)
NORS = new aftermarket replacement part (new old replacement stock)

Yes, I know the difference and didn't claim anything to the contrary.

 

[69Bee]

NOS = new factory Mopar part (new old stock)
NORS = new aftermarket replacement part (new old replacement stock)

Yes, I know the difference and didn't claim anything to the contrary.

I didn't say you did or didn't, just making a post for others that might not know the difference...

 

[68BabyBlue]

Yep, different part number for Plymouth (2883826). BTW, the parts list I have shows retail on them from Ma at the time
to be $8.70 each.

That's right Ed, when I had the first GTX as a daily driver in the 70s, I bought a set from the local dealer when the originals rotted out. When I bought Baby Blue, Bob Miller included a pair with a parts stash he'd accumulated. I paid $300 extra over the price of the car for the parts, which included a rocker molding, wheel lip molding, and all the numbers matching mechanical parts Bob had removed. Those tips are still on the car, 42 years later.

 

[Rishi]

Too bad we really do not manufacture a whole lot in this country anymore.

With of our issues around unions, cost-of-living, demands for higher pay, entitlement culture, and other problems in staffing, have we lost our ability to compete... with ourselves?

the poor guys in communist countries have a great deal of motivation (example, profit) to manufacture products we seem unwilling to make for ourselves.

we seem trending to an unwillingness to pay more for a quality product, yet we whine and complain about the poor quality of the cheap products we're buying so often, the demand for them keeps the poor chinese guys cranking them out.

they've gone from rikshaws to driving european sports cars, because we seem to prefer cheap over quality with our buying choices.

 

[F4R/T]

A lot of folks above our pay grades profited when they sold off our jobs in order to help build other countries, the majority of us can’t compete when you want things cheap. This isn’t supposed to be a political post just one about manufacturing, just the facts. Imo

 

[68BabyBlue]

A lot of folks above our pay grades profited when they sold off our jobs in order to help build other countries, the majority of us can’t compete when you want things cheap. This isn’t supposed to be a political post just one about manufacturing, just the facts. Imo

At the height of the economic boom of the 1960s, my dad would lecture me about it not being sustainable. He was a WWII veteran, and his take was that we riding the wave from our victory, but it would crest, and the rest of the world would respond with cheaper stuff. His advice was to get a job in the public sector, as he had. I did just the opposite, spending half my career self employed, but he was right in many respects. I also never imagined that parts for old Mopars would ever be made outside the US, couldn't imagine the demand would exist.

 

[Longknife]

I could write a BOOK on the problems I have had with the M/CYL on my 69 RR. I have gone through FIVE cylinders in FIVE years, Its all CRAP!!!!, ps I will be putting on M/C # 5 this spring!!! The last one I purchased from Orielley's is supposed to have a LIFETIME warranty, we will see!!!

 

[AR67GTX]

I suppose it might be worthwhile to check with member mobileparts (Craig) to see if he has any leads on a USA made or NOS master cylinder. I was recently directed to him for some asbestos lining shoes for my 67.

 

[Photon440]

I remember back in the day, we'd not dream of getting a new master cylinder. We'd just take the old one out, get a rebuild kit, hone it out and put it back together.

 

[Rishi]

I remember back in the day, we'd not dream of getting a new master cylinder. We'd just take the old one out, get a rebuild kit, hone it out and put it back together.

present-day, the vibe is, do it yourself, and it will fail, you'll wreck your car and kill your family. and only dummies drive with front drums.

 

[Longknife]

I remember back in the day, we'd not dream of getting a new master cylinder. We'd just take the old one out, get a rebuild kit, hone it out and put it back together.

I rebuilt MANY in my days but just try to find a kit anymore!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

 

[440 4 speed]

AutoLine in Winnipeg Manitoba does exceptionally good rebuilds on master cylinders, carburetors etc. You might have to go through a jobber though.
With our $ in the toilet, you might be able to send it and get it rebuilt and have them send you money!

 

[CHGRSE74]

Photon, i agree. As an auto tech i did many many MC rebuilds. Same with wheel cylinders, calipers, ext… In those days it was possible to still buy individual seals, cups, kits, ext. Now with the cost of labour so high the consumer wants it fixed as fast as possible. Most red seal techs are just parts changers now!!!

 

[65PlymSatellite]

Looking for a stock like master cylinder replacement for my 69 Bee with manual drum brakes all around. All that I have found so far are all made in China. Does anyone know of any manufactured in the USA?

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