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[satman72]

Yep, not sure if I should laugh or be concerned...

Why is it, that every time I see one of Sleepar's threads I think about Tom from Fast & Loud:eusa_dance:

 

[sleepar]

What about ammonia and water? Like in industrial hvac or old propane refrigerators?

 

[66chargerpat]

Don't laugh, propane and butane have been used for over 120 years as a refrigerant. 134a was just a quick fix to save the world from r12. Thank God for DuPont and Al Gore!!! 134a is to be shitcaned next. Some auto makers are going to the safer flammable refrigerants. Look for DuPont to put tons of propaganda so they can get more grants to save us poor souls from the cheap and flammable car bomb refrigerants! Plus DuPont will own the patent for the next "Quick Fix". I'm so glad we use the nonflammable propane in all of our aerosol cans! Oh, I almost forgot that propane and butane are more efficient than 134a or r410. Sleepar food for thought, if you use 70% propane to 30% butane blend, it's the same as r12.

 

[old_skool]

I didn't serve in Vietnam but I did serve with 3rd force service support group 3rd support battalion bravo and Charlie company, and with air delivery platoon 93-95 as a 1371 primary mos and 0481 secondary after a month on island at camp foster Okinawa.... and I was a m60 gunner (not a door gunner) and it was in Chinook 46 &53 helos.... Red Patchers... service and support of army navy air force marine and other government agencies and Japanese, Thai ROC marine.

M60 gunner out of a Chinook window was my secondary mos after a crew chief/mechanic for the 4th Brigade 179th aviation Ft. Carson Co., the stock came off, fitted with a butterfly handle stock, swivel mounted in the window just behind the hydraulics with a pedestal for you feet, waist straoped to the wall, I qualified expert gunner downrange shooting old tanks and apc's and fake ground troops equipped with sensors to detect hits.

 

[sleepar]

M60 gunner out of a Chinook window was my secondary mos after a crew chief/mechanic for the 4th Brigade 179th aviation Ft. Carson Co., the stock came off, fitted with a butterfly handle stock, swivel mounted in the window just behind the hydraulics with a pedestal for you feet, waist straoped to the wall, I qualified expert gunner downrange shooting old tanks and apc's and fake ground troops equipped with sensors to detect hits.

I qualified at camp Hansen in Oki on old tires we caught on fire from 100 to 300 yards in the prone with a 3 man crew one as a trigger man one as a range/ sight instructor and one as a ammo man and barrel changer... we had an old worn out m 60 we trained on to disassemble and 're assemble blind folded in around 15 seconds average. Me and 2 other marines could do it in around 12 but one did it in qualifying and set the record in 94 company b had 12-14 at one time capt, Lt., gunny, a staff over us and 2sgts, a corporal or 2and the rest laces and pfc. And I made pvt. A few times.... tight unit. And a corpsman. I was an engineer attached to them so I had demo and construction and to was a mix of landing support and engineers. We would fast rope out of the 53's through the hole off the donkey dick or out the back of the frogs.... had a fuel line go out and emergency landed soaked with fuel in the vicinity or the navy hospital bivwac.. and I fell 60' out the back of the frog in another operation... we would be on the ground doing HST' s directing the choppers in to pick up loads and drops.... one time I singlehandedly performed a slingless HST durring training in 95 at Hansen and was told it hadn't been done since Vietnam. We also did imbarcation disembarkation of ships coming in when the first gulf war ended... as an engineer I and the other engineers rebuilt the shelving at the camp foster motor pool to fit humve parts when the brass couldn't put it through and the warrant officer in charge was deeply impressed buy it.... it was the time of my life...

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Why is it, that every time I see one of Sleepar's threads I think about Tom from Fast & Loud:eusa_dance:

That guy? Really? Maybe with the hack back woods stuff I suppose... didn't he catch on fire once pouring gas down a carb.... I can see that then... only I forgot more than any of those shows would ever know combined... if you read th threads..

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Don't laugh, propane and butane have been used for over 120 years as a refrigerant. 134a was just a quick fix to save the world from r12. Thank God for DuPont and Al Gore!!! 134a is to be shitcaned next. Some auto makers are going to the safer flammable refrigerants. Look for DuPont to put tons of propaganda so they can get more grants to save us poor souls from the cheap and flammable car bomb refrigerants! Plus DuPont will own the patent for the next "Quick Fix". I'm so glad we use the nonflammable propane in all of our aerosol cans! Oh, I almost forgot that propane and butane are more efficient than 134a or r410. Sleepar food for thought, if you use 70% propane to 30% butane blend, it's the same as r12.

Exactly I learns this from working on thermal kings at freighliner in the trailer shop.
At least one other person gets what I'm saying... because when they do ban 134 or price it out of reach I will still have a/c and the skeptics can sweat up their interior.

ha ha ha.... no I accualy was a Shaft Greaser on a laundry Ship... got you... back to Mopar Monthy the real sourse of all my knoledge about Mocar

 

[sleepar]

You first...

you are 100% right after reading through my back issues of Mopar Monthy Magazine I found no articles about this thread and have to retract the statement...

 

[HT413]

Sleepar food for thought, if you use 70% propane to 30% butane blend, it's the same as r12.

I'm assuming you mean propane/butane blend is 'as effective' as r12, but it definitely isn't the same. R12 is a chloro flouro carbon. Butane and propane have neither chlorine nor fluorine. Completely different.

 

[super-bee_ski]

I didn't serve in Vietnam but I did serve with 3rd force service support group 3rd support battalion bravo and Charlie company, and with air delivery platoon 93-95 as a 1371 primary mos and 0481 secondary after a month on island at camp foster Okinawa.... and I was a m60 gunner (not a door gunner) and it was in Chinook 46 &53 helos.... Red Patchers... service and support of army navy air force marine and other government agencies and Japanese, Thai ROC marine.

Thank you for your service to our great country "sleepar"

PS: Did ya ever go to "A-street" in Okinawa?
Been to the "Florida Club" for a cold beer or two?
Right outside the "USO" gate at Kadena...

 

[sleepar]

Thank you for your service to our great country "sleepar"

PS: Did ya ever go to "A-street" in Okinawa?
Been to the "Florida Club" for a cold beer or two?
Right outside the "USO" gate at Kadena...

Not that I recall.. I had a girlfriend and lived with her in town by shuri castle ... I do remember a street that had all the bars as us states...

 

[Hemi Rebel]

I'm assuming you mean propane/butane blend is 'as effective' as r12, but it definitely isn't the same. R12 is a chloro flouro carbon. Butane and propane have neither chlorine nor fluorine. Completely different.

R1234 is next.

 

[sleepar]

I can buy a unit that will cool a room in my house for decades with no real service other than a filter ad out cars ac hasn't changed in 40 + years... I'm thinking of getting an inverter and build a unit out of a house window unit.. that has no belts no recharging last forever and blow cold air and use the heater core.... Or out of a 12v refrigerator.... but for now the original system works... but for how long....