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Barn Find Daytona... Couldn't Disagree More!

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http://www.hotrod.com/articles/barn-find-daytona-sells-for-90000-owner-preserving-as-is/

So we all saw/read the stories about this barn find Daytona, and now the other shoe has dropped. Some doctor in Tampa shelled out $99,000 of your health insurance bucks to buy it at Mecum. And his plan is to leave it exactly as it is. Here is his reasoning:

"As you can imagines (sic), the most amazing thing about the barn find Daytona is the response of those who see it. My dad and I watched as hundreds upon hundreds of very knowledgeable car folks walked right by the beautifully restored Hemi Challengers, COPO Camaros, and split-window ’vettes to stand 3-4 people deep in front of this old, nasty, dirty, lichen-overgrown Daytona at Mecum. The car had a magical effect on people as they recounted memories of winged cars or previous barn finds. Every person had a story to tell of their childhood, or a memory that this car brought to the front of their consciousness. It was then that I realized that the real value of this car is in how it makes people feel when they see it, and the memories that it inspires. I also believed that keeping the car as a “barn find” for people to enjoy is more valuable than the totally restored beauty queen it could be. After all, I summarized that I could always restore the car to better than new condition, but making it a barn find again can’t be done. Barn finds are a part of the American automobile culture and every car guy’s dream, so I’m going to preserve it just as it is."

Sorry Doc, but people will walk past perfectly healthy people to get a gander at the sight of someone who's just been mutilated in a traffic accident. They aren't doing it because they are inspired by the sight, they do it because it is something that has gone totally wrong, totally off the reservation of what they are used to seeing. This is why you got the car for far less than the estimated price of $150-$180K. All those people you think were inspired by the sight of this wreck weren't very inspired, nor did they share your pleasure in it. If they did they would have been bidding it up to double the estimate. Instead they spent their money on those beautifully-restored cars you mentioned. What you saw was people not understanding how in the Hell someone could let this car get so bad, and their sympathy for the car only lasted until they saw the next unusual car.

Also, barn finds are not a part of American car culture. They are an aberration to it. Cars were never intended to be locked away and forgotten, ignored, and left to slowly rot. No one bought one of these cars back in the day and said "You know what? I'm gonna drive this for a few months, screw it up, then abandon it in a garage for 50 years." No. They were driven, messed up, then circumstances dictated what became of them. They are a problem that needs to be corrected, not a culture that needs to be supported.

I'm not saying the guy shouldn't do what he's doing. I'm just saying that no car company would make and sell a car in this condition. They make them look great and beautiful, and that's how we should keep them looking. No guy would let his wife or girlfriend walk around in tattered clothes to keep her looking "original", so why would you ever do that to a car you love?
 
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So cheap and straight forward to get it back on the road. What a waste.

With so many guys out there doing the 'fake patina' thing, it's absolutely criminal not to be driving this car around with a bit of a clean and spruce up.
 
They will get bored with it shortly and it will be back on the market.
 
What and lose all that NOS dust/patina....And to recreate the paw prints....lol

The car appears complete and his "buy in price" for a complete Daytona is not bad at all....Restored professionally for 100-150k and he is still in line and under what it could be sold for restored to perfection...These increase in value yearly too...

I can see if it is a real survivor and in nice shape to not restore it but this car needs a full restoration. Mainly due to it's rarity and value. However, he was only going to dish out a 100k to buy so there is no way he will dish out the amounts above to do it true justice....
 
I must say I find it ridiculously ironic that a guy who makes millions fixing up people feels it's vital to keep a car looking like a heap. I wonder if he's ever told a patient "Sure I could operate on you and fix your thyroid condition, but hey... you're only original once, so enjoy the pain and suffering while I admire your originality." I'm guessing he hasn't. :)
 
I must say I find it ridiculously ironic that a guy who makes millions fixing up people feels it's vital to keep a car looking like a heap. I wonder if he's ever told a patient "Sure I could operate on you and fix your thyroid condition, but hey... you're only original once, so enjoy the pain and suffering while I admire your originality." I'm guessing he hasn't. :)
Maybe he will change the spark plugs by going in through the tail pipe?:lol:
 
I agree he should restore it. But a legitimate barn find is way cool. Whether it's a car, truck, tractor or some other valuable or cool antique. I've spent many hours trolling old buildings (with permission) and seen some cool stuff. Never a wing car.
To say that they were left to rot isn't accurate. Storing something and forgetting about is way better than leaving it outside to rot.

You recognize that superbird in pieces in the wing car forum. The one that you drove by many times as well as all of the other cars that the man was letting rot outdoors.
Just imagine if they only had a roof over them for all those years. They would be in good shape and Somebody would be restoring them right now instead of scrapping them.
I have a barn full of Old vehicles that I found in other barns. Maybe I will get to them, maybe not. But they are certainly not rotting away. They are in suspended animation. :D
 
I saw that car last year or the year before,
it had moss growing it IIRC

It was on some/few TV Car shows,
might have been Legendary or Fast & Loud {?} too,
maybe "what's your car worth" or "My Classic car"
one of the daytime Car shows, it's been out there for a while now...
I can't remember which, it's been a while too...

But IIRC the guy who was checking it out then "laughed at the
hunk of Bondo from the front, that's just laying there,
the guy was preserving saving that Bondo scrap" :lol:
also the faded out green {?} flames :realcrazy:

IMO it's nothing like it left the factory or a preservation of some
Barn Find/Survivor, it's somone's ol' worn out used up Daytona
& lost interest in that Daytona, no doubt it was forgot about...

Of course until prices for even junk went through the roof...
It needed restoration decades ago !!

IMO it's more of the A-typical org. owner,"I'll get to it someday"
I don't want to sell, blah blah blah, all while it rots away to nothing...

Restore it or fix a few things & drive it...

It'll just rust away {degrade further at a min} to nothing,
if something isn't done, even if it's under cover...

That part is a disgrace...

But I gave up a long time ago caring what other people
"just piss their own money away on"
Even "if" it will be worth more in the future,
at least fix it so you can enjoy it & drive it...

That'd be the "respectful thing to do" with a rare car only
523 {?} or so were ever produced...
 
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I must say I find it ridiculously ironic that a guy who makes millions fixing up people feels it's vital to keep a car looking like a heap. I wonder if he's ever told a patient "Sure I could operate on you and fix your thyroid condition, but hey... you're only original once, so enjoy the pain and suffering while I admire your originality." I'm guessing he hasn't. :)
What makes you think he makes millions? This is where there is a BIG misconception between fantasy land and actual incomes. Just because he is a Dr of any type does not infer her makes "millions" Granted he makes a great income and will top out at 400k if he is lucky but more around 250-300k.

There are very very few Dr's that tap in the million mark........However, there are many administrators from CEO, CFO, COO, Pres etc...in hospital admin that make millions and then some....That in itself pieces me off and makes me sick that some dumbazz in admin makes double and then some over an individual like the one in this article that SAVES lives and provides a gift that only a select few can do properly!

Sure even at his income he should be able to afford a restoration but he could only tap max 100k to buy it. Sounds like the million dollar lifestyle and budgeting for everything. Yes, even a Dr with a high income can be "House Poor." I know this because I work with a pediatric cardiologist that is House Poor....

BTW Bru do you have any clue what an internist makes when you go into the ER? They are lucky to tap out at 125k....It is sad what the people who treat get paid versus the people that constantly prepare for the next meeting and never get results....
 
Jim Norman is just another one of these ******* idiots that have no appreciation for these cars and is only trying to make himself look cool by making a dumb *** statement.

He's one of those punk *** guys that had the **** kicked out of him his entire life and is trying to make up for it by trying to make himself look cool by buying his way into it.
 
What makes you think he makes millions? This is where there is a BIG misconception between fantasy land and actual incomes. Just because he is a Dr of any type does not infer her makes "millions" Granted he makes a great income and will top out at 400k if he is lucky but more around 250-300k.

There are very very few Dr's that tap in the million mark........However, there are many administrators from CEO, CFO, COO, Pres etc...in hospital admin that make millions and then some....That in itself pieces me off and makes me sick that some dumbazz in admin makes double and then some over an individual like the one in this article that SAVES lives and provides a gift that only a select few can do properly!

Sure even at his income he should be able to afford a restoration but he could only tap max 100k to buy it. Sounds like the million dollar lifestyle and budgeting for everything. Yes, even a Dr with a high income can be "House Poor." I know this because I work with a pediatric cardiologist that is House Poor....

BTW Bru do you have any clue what an internist makes when you go into the ER? They are lucky to tap out at 125k....It is sad what the people who treat get paid versus the people that constantly prepare for the next meeting and never get results....

You are making assumptions just like Bru. Did you check out who the buyer is? He is a specialist with his own center and very reknowned. He specializes in parathyroid surgery ( which has nothing to do with your thyroid). My sister-in-law had this surgery and almost went to this guy (1200 miles from home) because he's an expert. I would venture to guess this guy has a 7 figure income and prob has the cash to restore the car if he wanted to. His choice though, so who cares.
 
You are making assumptions just like Bru. Did you check out who the buyer is? He is a specialist with his own center and very reknowned. He specializes in parathyroid surgery ( which has nothing to do with your thyroid). My sister-in-law had this surgery and almost went to this guy (1200 miles from home) because he's an expert. I would venture to guess this guy has a 7 figure income and prob has the cash to restore the car if he wanted to. His choice though, so who cares.

Apparently, you care but what can I expect from someone wanting to take a 70 bird and hack it up to build a vert......Yeah, your words mean a lot indeed, lol.....I am sure you will squabble your way around that idea like you did...all while people were laughing at you on the sidelines.

I have worked in pediatric and adult cardiology for 17 years.....I have also dealt with all levels in the medical arena and very familiar with key names and key surgeons. Also, have attended conferences worldwide dealing in the areas of neonatology, perinatology, pediatric cardiology, adult cardiology, endocrinology and neurology.....So I find it interesting you want to point out a subspecialty as if I am a novice to this arena....

Prove me wrong big boy? Until then Piss off....
 
Apparently, you care but what can I expect from someone wanting to take a 70 bird and hack it up to build a vert......Yeah, your words mean a lot indeed, lol.....I am sure you will squabble your way around that idea like you did...all while people were laughing at you on the sidelines.

I have worked in pediatric and adult cardiology for 17 years.....I have also dealt with all levels in the medical arena and very familiar with key names and key surgeons. Also, have attended conferences worldwide dealing in the areas of neonatology, perinatology, pediatric cardiology, adult cardiology, endocrinology and neurology.....So I find it interesting you want to point out a subspecialty as if I am a novice to this arena....

Prove me wrong big boy? Until then Piss off....

You're very impressed with yourself. But like the dr who bought the Daytona, who cares !! And fyi, I sold my bird and bought a convertible. You're not as astute as you think. :icon_fU:
 
Very interesting reading about this doctor. Obviously has a big practice and looks like the go to guy for this type of surgery. Notice how much for this surgery if you dont have insurance and paying cash. Then notice how many surgeries they do a day. I thing this reflects what they gross but dont forget there are other doctors, staff and a lot of other things to pay before they make a dime. I really have no idea what the good doctor makes but id bet the hospital does well for sure.
 
All I know is that if I bought a car, I would do with it whatever I wanted. People with other opinions could have bought it themselves and did other things. True, it would look nice restored, but I've seen lots of nice ones. If I saw a rough one like this in a show, I'd just think it was lucky to still be around to tell a story. It isn't being crushed, there's no reason to think that in the future it still won't get some loving and look new again. But it'll get more attention in this condition, be something that a lot of us can relate to.
 
It's his car now to do with as he pleases. I do think it is an interesting idea to keep it as is...but I am not a collector. I like to drive em and work on em so I would clean it up and drive.

Or I would set it in my yard, sit on my porch and tell everyone who asks to buy it that I plan on fixing it up someday lmao!!
 
If you wanted it restored, you should have bought it. It's his, he can do what he wants. Period.
 
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