California Passes Bill On Speed Limiting, First Step In Controlling Your Car By 2027

[Richard Cranium]

 

[68gtxman]

Another reason to: 1) don’t buy new cars; and 2) stay away from California.

 

[icetech]

K.. that's messed up.. i figured it was going to be a top speed of like 100mph limit... don't care.. too many people drive stupid. But +10? i do +15 on the way to work every morning... nice thing bout michigan is you can basically drive anything with wheels and lights that dumps raw fuel on the roads and no one cares.

 

[Billccm]

Remember California is the window to the country's future.

 

[68BabyBlue]

The owner/operator segment of the trucking industry has been fighting these things ever since electronic engine controls arrived on the scene. When I was on the other side of desk, as in house counsel for a large carrier, I supported a limit of 67 mph in the company trucks, but never tried to limit owner/operator speeds. Their safety record was always better, better quality drivers. With the company trucks, I set equipment up for the lowest common denominator, the idiots ruined things for the better operators.

My own Peterbilt 379, that I drove the last 16 years of my career, had no governor, and a theoretical 127 mph top speed. I was always being passed by company drivers with 72 mph speed governors. Guys in the shop used to laugh when they heard these idiots bragging about passing the "big truck," pointing out that unlike them, I was paying for fuel. The highest top speed I ever hit was 80 mph, building momentum for the next hill. Hard to explain to people who haven't driven a big truck, that this is how you get optimum fuel economy.

Lack of common sense by idiots driving vehicles has been fueling the "safety first" trend my entire adult life. Technology has just made it easier implement restrictive stuff across the board. In the old days before seat belts and air bags, natural selection killed a lot of them off early in the game. Now they live longer, reproduce, and create a societal motivation for electronic limits.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Remember California is the window to the country's future.

Sad, but true. My freshman year of law school, 1981, we were told that California and New York case law would provide the backdrop for most of the legal concepts we would be exploring, as those jurisdictions were always on the developing fringe.

 

[toolmanmike]

The owner/operator segment of the trucking industry has been fighting these things ever since electronic engine controls arrived on the scene. When I was on the other side of desk, as in house counsel for a large carrier, I supported a limit of 67 mph in the company trucks, but never tried to limit owner/operator speeds. Their safety record was always better, better quality drivers. With the company trucks, I set equipment up for the lowest common denominator, the idiots ruined things for the better operators.

My own Peterbilt 379, that I drove the last 16 years of my career, had no governor, and a theoretical 127 mph top speed. I was always being passed by company drivers with 72 mph speed governors. Guys in the shop used to laugh when they heard these idiots bragging about passing the "big truck," pointing out that unlike them, I was paying for fuel. The highest top speed I ever hit was 80 mph, building momentum for the next hill. Hard to explain to people who haven't a big truck, that this is how you get optimum fuel economy.

Lack of common sense by idiots driving vehicles has been driving the "safety first" trend my entire adult life. Technology has just made it easier implement restrictive stuff across the board. In the old days before seat belts and air bags, natural selection killed a lot of them off early in the game. Now that they live longer, and create a societal motivation for electronic limits.

Well said!

 

[XS22J8R]

Dumb and scary bill - Newsom vetoed it.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom vetoes bill requiring speeding alerts in new cars

 

[33 IMP]

I travel between California and Arizona on a fairly regular basis. The 55mph limit for anyone towing anything is violated 100% of the time. On hwy 40, typical tractor/trailer rigs run 62-65 (in a 70mph zone for cars, which also seldom comply).
In AZ, also on 40, (which in AZ is absolutely beat to s$#t,) limit for everybody is 75. The semi's are doing 80-85, cars doing 85-90 on a regular basis.
I r3member going to a race from CA to AZ many years back, getting passed by semi's, almost getting blown of the road. I asked an AZ resident what the truck speed limit was.... "what truck limit?"
Drove home (ca at the time) at 70+. I think my gas mileage was half, or worse, from 62. Smart enough to fill up in Arizona on the way home tho. Lesson learned.

 

[DeltaV]

The highest top speed I ever hit was 80 mph, building momentum for the next hill

Was that you behind me on southbound I-81 in Pennsylvania back around 1999?

I had been checking my mirror for several miles and a trucker was steadily closing the very large gap between us. I was already going above the posted speed limit, but I sped up some more. At one point I was going +85 mph on a long, steep uphill grade and the trucker was still closing the gap. He passed me at the top of the grade and I backed off. He kept up his pace...I never saw him again!

No traffic.

 

[33 IMP]

Dumb and scary bill, but for maybe the first time in his career, Newsom did something right when he vetoed it.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom vetoes bill requiring speeding alerts in new cars

And for what it's worth, my 2002 diesel goes ding, ding, ding, anytime I'm over 85.
So, 82-84 in az.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Was that you behind me on southbound I-81 in Pennsylvania back around 1999?

I had been checking my mirror for several miles and a trucker was steadily closing the very large gap between us. I was already going above the posted speed limit, but I sped up some more. At one point I was going +85 mph on a long, steep uphill grade and the trucker was still closing the gap. He passed me at the top of the grade and I backed off. He kept up his pace...I never saw him again!

No traffic.

No, I was still driving a desk at headquarters that year, but I have some likely suspects. At the small carrier where I started and finished my career, partner who ordered the trucks started specifying 15 speed overdrive transmissions. The goal was to increase fuel economy, enabling significantly lower rpms at cruising speed than the previous trucks, which were screaming at 65 mph. Potential top speed was now 85 mph. I soon had a conversation with Don about the results. "Three of them f'ers passed me doing 85 in a 55, and the fuel mileage is in the sh****tr!" The first batch of new trucks with electronic engines got speed limiters.

 

[Runcharger]

We are speed limited here on our commercial vehicles to 105KPH (63MPH). Honestly it is one of the more unsafe safety "enhancements" out there. You try to pass a slower vehicle, they wake up and decide to speed up and there you are stuck beside them unable to accelerate, so you decide you have to slow up to avoid oncoming traffic and buddy wakes up to the fact you're there and decides to slow up as well, especially bad on 2 lane roads but no prize on divided highways either.
The other thing is when people aren't driving fast enough they lose concentration, they start looking at the cell phone, picking their nose or do whatever else catches their imagination. You see it all the time with big carrier trucks, they're plodding along at the speed limit and they're bobbing over the fog line and flirting with the ditch while doiing whatever it is they are doing (half the time responding to company dispatch messages) other than driving and paying attention.

 

[DeltaV]

I must remark the tractor trailer drivers in and around Savannah, Georgia are at least ten times better than the drivers of pick-up trucks, SUV's, and cars. This was not the case 10 years ago.

Even the logging truck and dump truck drivers are better than our typical knucklehead civilian drivers.

 

[68BabyBlue]

I must remark the tractor trailer drivers in and around Savannah, Georgia are at least ten times better than the drivers of pick-up trucks, SUV's, and cars. This was not the case 10 years ago.

Even the logging truck and dump truck drivers are better than our typical knucklehead civilian drivers.

I think civilians are a product of northern migration. My executive experience with a nationwide carrier convinced me that native southern truck drivers are true gentlemen.

 

[Dennis H]

Capped at 202 and Valentine 1 Gen 2.