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Car Selling Question

$23K for a new 2013 Charger R/T???? Mine had a list on it of over $30k 5 years ago and I bought it through my company fleet sales for a bit over $26K cash. I've also looked them up on Ebay and the 07-09' range are all in the upper teens to low 20s? I appreciate your help but something doesn't quite add up here. I can't see KBB and so many Ebay sellers being that far out of line. The $19k KBB price is in fact for an excellent condition retail sale but this car is in excellent condition. I am a bit negiotiable on price but I would not think of letting it go for $13K -although I'm sure that is what a dealer would want to pay for it.. which is why I am selling it outright.


*** Just checked NADA.com and they show a clean trade in value of $17.1 and a clean retail of over $20K, so very close to what KBB has. They give
me a list price of just under $30k for a new R/T (without dealer crap of
course) and show only $3500 for incentives? ***

KBB and NADA are arbitrary numbers that are set by the dealers themselves and not by any objective, independent, organizations, which is why they should be taken with a big grain of salt. They are intended for dealer to dealer business, and not for private sales. They also change four times a year. And ebay isn't a good reference for new cars. Auto Trader and local sales magazines are much better.

As for condition, I'm not surprised you feel the car is excellent. I would guess 70% of the customers who came into our dealership came in with excellent ratings for their cars. They felt if their car was clean and no real serious defects, it was excellent. In the automotive dealer business, excellent = perfect, i.e., zero defects that need to be corrected. Used cars always have some defects, and if your car has even one it isn't excellent in the eyes of any dealer I've ever seen. Like I wrote before, most all the cars I saw get appraised were rated fair because they needed tires, tune-ups, paint chip/scratch repairs, stains and smells removed, etc.

As for incentives, you have national, regional, and dealer incentives. For Ford, we could get a $3,500 incentive from Ford, then another $3,000 from the Southern Ford Dealers Association, then another dealer one for a grand or so. And these incentives change frequently as sales numbers change. Looking at the ads on Auto Trader yesterday, they were showing a $6,500 Dodge incentive package on the Charger R/T at multiple region dealerships, plus two were advertising $1,000 in dealer cash.

I'm guessing you will have a tough time getting $13k if that's what used Chargers are listing at with dealers, but you never know. It'll be interesting to see what yours ends up selling for. I'll keep an eye on the FL cars and see what they do.
 
FORGET AUTOTRADER.I sold 3 cars and put them all on there.Guess what,all I had was dealers trying to buy it for next to nothing.I sold all 3 off craigslist,for what I wanted and the first person who came out and looked,bought them.If its clean,it will sell.I keep my cars clean and well maintained with records and it makes a difference when you go to sell.Our Nitro ,we were offere 7200 from the dealer and I got 10,500.It did take 3 months.
 
FORGET AUTOTRADER.I sold 3 cars and put them all on there.Guess what,all I had was dealers trying to buy it for next to nothing.I sold all 3 off craigslist,for what I wanted and the first person who came out and looked,bought them.If its clean,it will sell.I keep my cars clean and well maintained with records and it makes a difference when you go to sell.Our Nitro ,we were offere 7200 from the dealer and I got 10,500.It did take 3 months.

I've lost count of how many new vehicles I've bought in my life and I have never traded a car in or sold one to a dealer. Every vehicle I have sold on my own privately. The game they play is for fools and a trade in plays into their hand too well. I have always kept my vehicles in top condition which helps on resale and have always used KBB to help set a price. That said I have not sold one in a number of years now. Can both KBB and NADA be so far off these days?
 
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