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[Billccm]

That's my point. You aren't confident fitment is any better. When research is done on various products and the information is all the same such as "....check fitment for your application....." then you can't convince the buyer you have any advantage.

I'll give Frank at ECP a critical feedback in that he said "......the factory shroud should fit. I believe you need to drill a hole." This sold me on the ECP, but it was far from the truth. I had to drill all five holes, which was many many times of test fitting, etc.

So far, Griffin is the only aluminum radiator company that claims "near factory " matching and fitment. Buy one of these and reverse engineer the mounting and you'll gain business!

 

[1967coronet440]

That's my point. You aren't confident fitment is any better. When research is done on various products and the information is all the same such as "....check fitment for your application....." then you can't convince the buyer you have any advantage.

I'll give Frank at ECP a critical feedback in that he said "......the factory shroud should fit. I believe you need to drill a hole." This sold me on the ECP, but it was far from the truth. I had to drill all five holes, which was many many times of test fitting, etc.

So far, Griffin is the only aluminum radiator company that claims "near factory " matching and fitment. Buy one of these and reverse engineer the mounting and you'll gain business!

Words like should and I believe should’ve been a clear sign he didn’t know if it would fit. I think the case with ECP it seems some cars it’ll bolt right up some it won’t

 

[Ccas]

Ad far as a 26” with fans and wiring ECP has ya beat by a couple hundred bucks, also made in USA. Why is yours superior? I’m in the market and will be at the Indy show with cash if ya can persuade me.

Listen, I don't want to get into bashing ECP. I said Frank provides a decent alternative compared to a lot of crap that's out there. However, they are not made in the USA. He at least imports the tanks and the cores and 'maybe' he puts them together in USA? but I doubt it very much. Anyone ever been to his place? No address is posted. No pickup option is offered. Other differences? Dual 1 1/4" tubes instead of dual 1" tubes. Taking the extra step to make sure our products fit correctly. Polished tanks are included. That's at least $50-$75 more from almost everyone. Our cores go to the edge of the tank. On many models, ECP stops about 2 rows short of the edge. That's as many as 16 rows of cooling missing if the radiator was a 4 row. It's 8 as aluminum. Have you noticed that everyone talks to Frank? All the time? We have 10 dedicated experienced Heating and cooling staff in PA helping to test, improve, add models and provide technical support along with another 25 dual role staff from Pypes Exhaust here in Hatfield PA. That's the reason we can come on these forums and get beat up but hang in there until we earn the respect of the Mopar community by learning and making better fitting products. That takes time and money. We're in this for the long haul. In 5 years or 10 years when your radiator might fail, who do you think is going to more likely to be around to replace your radiator. We're not the cheapest but we're also certainly not near as expensive as companies like Be Cool and Griffin yet our products are very comparable. Most of you have a lot of money invested in your cars. We're pretty darn confident that for most of you, we represent a better value.

 

[Ccas]

Words like should and I believe should’ve been a clear sign he didn’t know if it would fit. I think the case with ECP it seems some cars it’ll bolt right up some it won’t

By the way, the prices on our website are full retail prices. We have a dealer network and we support the dealers with not trying to beat them. In the case of the Mopar line, we currently have not solicited any Mopar dealers because we're still tweaking various applications. If you shoot me an PM, I'll give you a forum member price that will be quite competitive.

 

[Ccas]

That's my point. You aren't confident fitment is any better. When research is done on various products and the information is all the same such as "....check fitment for your application....." then you can't convince the buyer you have any advantage.

So far, Griffin is the only aluminum radiator company that claims "near factory " matching and fitment. Buy one of these and reverse engineer the mounting and you'll gain business!

Well not exactly. We've been here a year and have improved fitment along the way. We also aren't blowing smoke up your butt telling you there's just 1 hole to drill . We're trying to work with you guys to improve what you have been dealing with.
I got news for you on Griffin, they are in the similar boat as us. We are confident that the radiators fit the support. We have most of the supports here at our facility and they fit perfect. It's the OEM shrouds that cause the confusion. We're here in hopes that your community will be open to wanting a better product. We went to the Pontiac, Chevy and Ford communities and they helped us. The C-body Mopar Forum community has been contributing and now they are going to get at least one new radiator that nobody else has ever offered them. I didn't think you guys would be any different. If I'm wrong, we'll still get the job done, it will just take longer. We just spent 10 hours at Tony's Mopars in January taking measurements of 50 different radiators. But it helps when owners show us what they have and give us feedback with the results of what we give them.

 

[Ckeely]

I just ordered my second cold case radiator today. This is a very nice product for those that are wondering. As members we get a nice discount .

 

[Super-Bee-69]

Will the original hoses, trans oil lines and the shroud fit for a 22“ b-body radiator??

 

[Ccas]

Will the original hoses, trans oil lines and the shroud fit for a 22“ b-body radiator??

In most cases yes. We've got ALL the 26" models matched up to OEM shrouds but with Mopar, we need to review each model, year and application to confirm the 22" models still. Just shoot me a PM or call our office to discuss. 844-REAL COLD

 

[Super-Bee-69]

In most cases yes. We've got ALL the 26" models matched up to OEM shrouds but with Mopar, we need to review each model, year and application to confirm the 22" models still. Just shoot me a PM or call our office to discuss. 844-REAL COLD

I wrote an Email also, here are the facts:
69 Coronet Super Bee
383 engine
automatic transmission
22“ radiator frame
direct driven fan

 

[BrianS]

I just ordered my second cold case radiator today. This is a very nice product for those that are wondering. As members we get a nice discount .

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I know how everyone loves it when a thread is resurrected...lol. Just wanted to put my $.02 in. A 2-3 years ago I had a 73 Vette I did an LS3 swap in-I used a ECP Radiator and never really got it to fit right, granted is was a swap scenario. Then last year I finished my 69 GTO and was thinking about ordering an ECP radiator but went to the Pontiac forums and did some reading. Griffin is the radiator of choice over there, they make a very nice radiator and truly set the standard but there is a price tag that comes with that a high price tag. After more reading I settled on the Cold Case and have never looked back-it fit like a glove and I have had zero cooling issues with a heavily modified 455. I had the luxury of having the ECP and the CC side by side and the quality of the CC is far above the ECP. I saw CC getting slammed because they are not USA manufactured but neither is ECP so not where that info came from. If I choose not to re-core and keep the stock radiator in the RR I will without hesitation buy a CC-even without a discount. Once again just my $.02 worth

 

[cal30_sniper]

Is there any interest in doing a radiator for a 75-79 B-Body? I crawled all over your website, along with those of your competitors, and couldn’t find anything that fit the factory shroud.

It seems like your C-body or truck radiator might be close, but not close enough.

Application is a 79 Chrysler 300, small block 360.

Mounting pad holes measure approximately 30.25” x 6.75”

Core meausures 27.25” x 18.5”

Overall height with tanks is 22.75”

Upper hose (drivers side): 1.5”
Lower hose (passenger side): 1.75”