44070dart
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Looking to paint my Plymouth Satellite "Dodge" f6 green. Looking at a lot of confusing conversations about it, Dodge or Plymouth f-6 ..?....like to get it in single stage.... this is what I want
Dodge F6 paint ?
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Did you see this?
Post in thread 'F6 Green?' F6 Green?
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BTW, I took have been confused by green paint information out there on the Internet.
Interesting...
Post in thread 'F6 bright green or 999 rally green' F6 bright green or 999 rally green
Post in thread 'F6 bright green or 999 rally green' F6 bright green or 999 rally green
Curiousyellow71
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Those links have good information.
I have done quite a bit of research, our 69 charger was F6 Bright Green poly.
F6 is a dodge only high impact color that came for mid year 69 introduced in February. Plymouth had ralley green which was also used by GM in 69 and is not the same as F6. F6 was a color made for only 6 months. It becomes confusing because you could special ordered the dodge with the plymouth color and vice versa.
I have read that using a green primer helps make the color brighter, some single stage F6 paint jobs just don't look right and getting the metallic to lay right is almost art. You will have to do some research if your spraying it yourself but F6 is made by several paint companies, but Dupont seems to be popular. Since the six pack Bee came out mid year and was first only offered with high impact colors F6 made the list. These pages are out of the 69 bulletins.
I have done quite a bit of research, our 69 charger was F6 Bright Green poly.
F6 is a dodge only high impact color that came for mid year 69 introduced in February. Plymouth had ralley green which was also used by GM in 69 and is not the same as F6. F6 was a color made for only 6 months. It becomes confusing because you could special ordered the dodge with the plymouth color and vice versa.
I have read that using a green primer helps make the color brighter, some single stage F6 paint jobs just don't look right and getting the metallic to lay right is almost art. You will have to do some research if your spraying it yourself but F6 is made by several paint companies, but Dupont seems to be popular. Since the six pack Bee came out mid year and was first only offered with high impact colors F6 made the list. These pages are out of the 69 bulletins.
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69Coronetrt
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F6 was released for select Dodges in December of 1968 and can be found on cars with December SPDs.
The 1970 Hamtramck Registry - 1969 Dodge PIBs
YY1
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I'd be willing to bet "almost any amount" of money that 1969.5 Dodge and 1969.5 Plymouth were the exact same color.
Later, "F6" changed to a more "normal" green.
Again, this is why that first letter in the paint code is important.
Later, "F6" changed to a more "normal" green.
Again, this is why that first letter in the paint code is important.
Well, you would lose....
44070dart
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Found this to add to my confusion .. maybe I'll do it black.
1969 Plymouth # 99 "spring? green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 44032
1969 Dodge # F6 "bright green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 2103
Spring Green was a mid year release and was coded 99, 97 or 97E depending on plant and time of year. Any non standard color, that is a color that was not specifically released for that particular make and model or cars that required special painting schemes, like a cop car, will code 99 (1969 code number).
There were some colors that received special coding such as Spring Green. Early on, it appears Spring Green was coded 99. All three plants used 99, 97 or 97E depending on the plant or time of year. Bahama Yellow coded 99 early in the year then later it codes 96. LA tended to stick with the 99 code while Lynch rd plants and ST Louis used 97 or 96 for Green and Yellow/Butterscotch.
Controversy The Fact: Code F6, Bright Green Metallic for Dodge A- and B-Bodies was first mentioned in TSB D69-23-9, dated November 27, 1968. Some sources claimed that Code 97 Rallye Green is also F6 Bright Green Metallic, but the PPG/Ditzler paint numbers are different: 2103 (F6-Bright Green Metallic) and 44032 (97-Rallye Green). The numbers from Ditzler prove that Rallye Green and Bright Green Metallic were different. Additionally, a Chrysler-issued bulletin dated January 22, 1969, listed Ditzler #43898-Rallye Green for '69 Plymouth B-Bodies (Code 99). This is the same number as the catalogued '68 Chevrolet color of Rallye Green Metallic!
As it turns out, through 1968 Ditzler used a five-digit number to identify paint colors. Typically, Ditzler used the numeral "4" as a prefix for green hues. Beginning in 1969, Ditzler went to a four-digit numbering system; however, some five-digit catalog numbers were carried over. The catalog number "2103"-for F6 Bright Green Metallic-was issued during the '69 model year-and no sooner-for '69 Dodge A- and B-Bodies. The code "44032"-Code 97 Rallye Green-was the highest five digit number Ditzler issued for passenger car applications. It was assigned to give Chrysler a specific factory application number in the Ditzler paint books. Ditzler code "43898" is currently cataloged for '68-'69 Chevrolets only.
The actual formula used to create Rallye Green for Plymouth in 1969 was the same formula used for the 1968 Chevrolet-Rallye Green Metallic.
1969 Plymouth # 99 "spring? green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 44032
1969 Dodge # F6 "bright green metallic"
-- PPG paint code # 2103
Spring Green was a mid year release and was coded 99, 97 or 97E depending on plant and time of year. Any non standard color, that is a color that was not specifically released for that particular make and model or cars that required special painting schemes, like a cop car, will code 99 (1969 code number).
There were some colors that received special coding such as Spring Green. Early on, it appears Spring Green was coded 99. All three plants used 99, 97 or 97E depending on the plant or time of year. Bahama Yellow coded 99 early in the year then later it codes 96. LA tended to stick with the 99 code while Lynch rd plants and ST Louis used 97 or 96 for Green and Yellow/Butterscotch.
Controversy The Fact: Code F6, Bright Green Metallic for Dodge A- and B-Bodies was first mentioned in TSB D69-23-9, dated November 27, 1968. Some sources claimed that Code 97 Rallye Green is also F6 Bright Green Metallic, but the PPG/Ditzler paint numbers are different: 2103 (F6-Bright Green Metallic) and 44032 (97-Rallye Green). The numbers from Ditzler prove that Rallye Green and Bright Green Metallic were different. Additionally, a Chrysler-issued bulletin dated January 22, 1969, listed Ditzler #43898-Rallye Green for '69 Plymouth B-Bodies (Code 99). This is the same number as the catalogued '68 Chevrolet color of Rallye Green Metallic!
As it turns out, through 1968 Ditzler used a five-digit number to identify paint colors. Typically, Ditzler used the numeral "4" as a prefix for green hues. Beginning in 1969, Ditzler went to a four-digit numbering system; however, some five-digit catalog numbers were carried over. The catalog number "2103"-for F6 Bright Green Metallic-was issued during the '69 model year-and no sooner-for '69 Dodge A- and B-Bodies. The code "44032"-Code 97 Rallye Green-was the highest five digit number Ditzler issued for passenger car applications. It was assigned to give Chrysler a specific factory application number in the Ditzler paint books. Ditzler code "43898" is currently cataloged for '68-'69 Chevrolets only.
The actual formula used to create Rallye Green for Plymouth in 1969 was the same formula used for the 1968 Chevrolet-Rallye Green Metallic.
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