Electronic ignition choices

[Frank Mopar]

https://www.manciniracing.com/mopeheidi.html

 

[Gpuller]

Mancini! First he tells me they send them back to the guy that makes them he will send shipping label and look at it,if it checks out send a new one,tell them don’t want a new one want a credit they stop talking to me. been buying from them Spence the early 80 s,new owners

That sucks, I hear lots of stories like that from Mancini.
I ordered a Carter fuel pump rebuild kit from them once, wasn't even close to the right parts. They wouldn't credit me, had to take store credit. Ended up getting a new pump from them, and overpaying. I still buy from them though.

 

[Smokinnjokin]

So after deliberation and research, I decided to get the HiRev kit off ebay, comes with distributor and the Hirev (improvement on chrome box) ecu. Price is right and reviews have been favorable. Better ecu for the same price as the summit/jegs/mancini kits with orange or repro blue box.

 

[Moparfiend]

So after deliberation and research, I decided to get the HiRev kit off ebay, comes with distributor and the Hirev (improvement on chrome box) ecu. Price is right and reviews have been favorable. Better ecu for the same price as the summit/jegs/mancini kits with orange or repro blue box.

Look interesting. Cap made in the USA! How do you control the advance on this?

 

[Frank Mopar]

The Mopar Performance HEI dizzy is the one to buy. It eliminates the ballast and the orange or chrome box is not needed.

One thing to remember is electronic and HEI are not the same thing

I have the HEI on my car and the orange box that was on there setup sits in the box where it belongs. They are night and day

 

[68 Sport Satellite]

Is the MP HEI a fairly new offering? I recall 5 yrs ago I asked about upgrading to HEI on here and at the time I got a lot of trash talk feedback about why install a GM type ignition on our Mopars.

The Mopar Performance HEI dizzy is the one to buy. It eliminates the ballast and the orange or chrome box is not needed.

One thing to remember is electronic and HEI are not the same thing

I have the HEI on my car and the orange box that was on there setup sits in the box where it belongs. They are night and day

 

[Smokinnjokin]

The Mopar Performance HEI dizzy is the one to buy. It eliminates the ballast and the orange or chrome box is not needed.

One thing to remember is electronic and HEI are not the same thing

I have the HEI on my car and the orange box that was on there setup sits in the box where it belongs. They are night and day

I was looking at that kit you linked on mancini, I guess what I'm unsure of is what it takes to put this on my points car. Am i removing the factory coil, splicing the ballast resistor connections together and just hooking the old coil hot wire to the HEI dist? What else is needed for the conversion? And what in particular is better about this than the factory style EE?

 

[Frank Mopar]

I was looking at that kit you linked on mancini, I guess what I'm unsure of is what it takes to put this on my points car. Am i removing the factory coil, splicing the ballast resistor connections together and just hooking the old coil hot wire to the HEI dist? What else is needed for the conversion? And what in particular is better about this than the factory style EE?

That has the coil right on the cap


http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15779

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...nition-mopar-blasphemy-heres-why-its-not/amp/

 

[idrivemopar]

I must be the only person here running the original electronic control unit. So what's wrong with just getting a used distributor, standard ECU, and harness from another car for your electronic setup and installing it on your car?

 

[Frank Mopar]

I must be the only person here running the original electronic control unit. So what's wrong with just getting a used distributor, standard ECU, and harness from another car for your electronic setup and installing it on your car?

You have 50 year old technology that runs on 9 volts. Does it work? Of course. Is it the best choice? Not anymore. Having both I can tell you its not.

 

[68 Sport Satellite]

Can you elaborate on the differences you like from a driving perspective? More seat of pants throttle response? Easier to get more advance without pinging? I believe in the merits of HEI but haven’t had the luxury of comparing a classic mopar before and after an HEI swap.
I almost installed HEI when I built my big block. I had ordered an all on one distributor from DUI (Davis Unified), but when it arrived holy cow that thing was massive! It was more than twice as long past the block as the stock unit. I returned it. This Mopar performance HEI may be a better option...

You have 50 year old technology that runs on 9 volts. Does it work? Of course. Is it the best choice? Not anymore. Having both I can tell you its not.

 

[Kern Dog]

I don't have the knowledge to dispute Rick Ehrenberg, but he claims that there is NO power in ignition with a fairly stock engine. None. If the fire lights, it burns. It won't burn any hotter if the spark has more energy. To me, that makes sense. The MSD setups use that ugly control box so I have never considered it.
I looked at that DUI setup too. A high rise distributor? Whuuut???

 

[Frank Mopar]

There are two links that I posted that explains the advantage of a HEI system.

This is what I have on my car. It is not the coil in the cap system.

 

[Speedbird]

Gentlemen,
I am looking to do an electronic ignition conversion on my and I'm getting lost in the options. Last time I did this on another car, I bought a factory e.e. distributor from ebay, orange box and conversion harness and i think about $200 had me running good. Bottom line up front, I don't race, engine is mild and don't need a rev limiter, and the car is not seeing extreme cold temps or anything like that. Just a cruiser.

Recently, I have been reading that the new mopar boxes are chinese garbage, looking at other options like:

the cheap pertronix , $86 and goes inside my factory distributor

Proform 66991 kit on summit, cheapest option for new distributor, cap, rotor, harness and box at $136

Summit SUM850003 kit, same as above but cost $200.

Final option,
Buy the new summit mopar ECU and conversion harness, and buy a used 340 vac advance EE distributor from the forum.

What do you guys think? Am i overthinking this and getting too deep in my research?

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/spark-plugs-which-type.172921/

 

[Smokinnjokin]

That has the coil right on the cap


http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15779

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...nition-mopar-blasphemy-heres-why-its-not/amp/

Frank, I have considered the mopar HEI distributor with coil in cap, it does seem to be a simple solution but I can't find info on if it will fit in my '67 with a 360 and 4-barrel air cleaner. It is already a tight fit with the stock distributor. I do like the idea of simplifying and getting rid of the ballast resistor and control box, and don't mind the look since they are hidden behind the air cleaner anyway.

Everything I have read says "HEI is night and day over mopar factory EE with Orange box." Well, the orange box is garbage, and I can get a kit with HiRev box (modern electronics) for 1/2 the price of the HEI.

Either way, I'm getting a new distributor of questionable quality. So all things being equal it comes down to price, reliability, driveability. I don't need an adjustable rev limiter or any of the advanced features.

 

[Frank Mopar]

Frank, I have considered the mopar HEI distributor with coil in cap, it does seem to be a simple solution but I can't find info on if it will fit in my '67 with a 360 and 4-barrel air cleaner. It is already a tight fit with the stock distributor. I do like the idea of simplifying and getting rid of the ballast resistor and control box, and don't mind the look since they are hidden behind the air cleaner anyway.

Everything I have read says "HEI is night and day over mopar factory EE with Orange box." Well, the orange box is garbage, and I can get a kit with HiRev box (modern electronics) for 1/2 the price of the HEI.

Either way, I'm getting a new distributor of questionable quality. So all things being equal it comes down to price, reliability, driveability. I don't need an adjustable rev limiter or any of the advanced features.

Buy a good dizzy and do the HEI controller and coil that is NOT IN THE CAP. Those parts are not expensive and available at any parts.

 

[Smokinnjokin]

Buy a good dizzy and do the HEI controller and coil that is NOT IN THE CAP. Those parts are not expensive and available at any parts.

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Ok frank, you won me over! I researched it, located all my parts to do the swap, I am just missing one thing. Any ideas where to get a nice solid bracket to mount the FD478 coil to my edelbrock intake manifold?

 

[Fran Blacker]

There is a bracket on this site.
http://www.designed2drive.com/

 

[Frank Mopar]

Ok frank, you won me over! I researched it, located all my parts to do the swap, I am just missing one thing. Any ideas where to get a nice solid bracket to mount the FD478 coil to my edelbrock intake manifold?

One thing I did on mine is run the ballast wires to a relay. Pick up 12 volts to feed the relay from the start relay This way you eliminate and voltage drop through bulkhead connector and key switch

 

[Smokinnjokin]

There is a bracket on this site.
http://www.designed2drive.com/

Yes, that is for mounting the module to the underside of the distributor.
Im looking for a bracket to mount the FD478 coil to my intake manifold.