For all of You Train Lovers
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Frank Mopar
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It probably been mentioned in this forum but its worth repeating. The B&O Museum.
https://www.borail.org/
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For more than 100 years Baldwin was the premier steam locomotive manufacturer, but although they did produce diesel locomotives, they didn't successfully compete against General Motors EMD, and stopped producing in the 1950s.
Frank Mopar
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This girl is sitting on a siding in Hamburg, NY waiting for ???
Slap Stick
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4483 is owned by the Western New York Railway Historical Society. Plans are for the loco to be moved under shelter. Meanwhile the Society is attempting to stave off any deterioration. The tender is set to be restored for use by another museum.
4483 probably will never run again. The Society owns no trackage and main line railroads don't want the liability of an unproven stem loco operating on their trackage. The loco has been idle for decades. Norfolk Southern would be the RR to grant trackage rights. They already do steam loco runs with other museums and preservation groups, mostly the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga which is on former Southern RR trackage and connects to NS main lines. TVRR has a variety of locos, including Southern 4501 and Southern 610 steam locos, which run steam excursions regularly. The museum is also an operating freight hauling operation. NS works closely with them and for the reasons mentioned NS grants trackage rights.
Maybe the WNYRHS can get with the TVRM and get 4483 to their shops. Problem is I dont think it will fit on TVRMs turntable.
Wherever it goes work on the drivers will likely go through TVRM as they are the only shop in the country that can do complete servicing on steam loco drive axles.
YY1
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Baldwin, Lima, and ALCO were the top three steam builders.
Lima "super power" was the last real widespread improvement in steam technology.
Visually referenced by 4 trailing wheels under an enlarged firebox.
Baldwin and Lima later merged along with a lesser builder, Hamilton after diesel technology took hold but never really offered serious competition other than switchers and transfer units after the "shark" body Baldwin freight and passenger units of 1949-50.
ALCO, by far did the best competing with GM, lasting into the late 1960's.
GE (maker of ALCO's electrical gear) then stepped in to fill the void and eventually compete successfully with GM.
Lima "super power" was the last real widespread improvement in steam technology.
Visually referenced by 4 trailing wheels under an enlarged firebox.
Baldwin and Lima later merged along with a lesser builder, Hamilton after diesel technology took hold but never really offered serious competition other than switchers and transfer units after the "shark" body Baldwin freight and passenger units of 1949-50.
ALCO, by far did the best competing with GM, lasting into the late 1960's.
GE (maker of ALCO's electrical gear) then stepped in to fill the void and eventually compete successfully with GM.
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GE is out of the business, having sold off their locomotive division to Wabtec. CN has ordered their first battery powered locomotive from Wabtec a few months ago for use on their subsidiary line Bessemer & Lake Erie Railroad in Pennsylvania.
https://electrek.co/2021/11/04/cn-p... Marine and Rail Freight Movers Grant Program.
In the past, CN was a good customer for General Electric, having purchased at least 260 locomotives from them since 2017.
Meanwhile, Caterpillar (Progress Rail), who owns the former GM Electro-Motive Division locomotive brand is producing their own electric units, having sold ten to Union Pacific this year.
Begood03
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That sure looks like Detroit way back when.
FitzyB5
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Love the Big boys.
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