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Happy 420 day!!

Here you see crowds of homeless people gathering around the dispensaries waiting for them to open. Is it really your argument that impaired people were on the roads before pot was legal so now there are 10x more impaired people driving high and that's okay?

IMO I don't think legalization has increased impaired driving very much. I remember in the 70-80's when empty beer cans piled up so high in the rear seat, a few would occasionally fall out. They called it booze cruising and would be a regular thing. I remember doing hash hot knives with a propane torch in my Cordoba. Like alcohol, weed is available whether its legal or not. And legalization didn't make it easier to find, just better & more variety and more convenient. Now adays you wouldn't dare see an empty beer can in a car.
BTW, drug addicted homeless people's choice of drug is much cheaper and harder than any weed product. They can be high all day on 10 bucks on meth or heroin. One joint ($10), maybe an hour or two. Why they were out front of the weed store, who knows. Just because you see a bunch of rough looking people out in front of a gun store doesn't mean gun crime will increase.


Up north of the border, a small town of maybe 5K has not one, but 2 pot shops... That's more that Tim Horton's has, and boy are they PO'd at that!! But like my former neighbor who had a card to buy it for medical reasons, many still buy it from their regular dealers cause the stores are so damned expensive. $20 for 1 joint.. I remember when that was a half ounce..

I find the government prices in Ontario have matched the black market. The black market dealers and growers must be crying because what use to cost $200 now costs about $80.
 
IMO I don't think legalization has increased impaired driving very much. I remember in the 70-80's when empty beer cans piled up so high in the rear seat, a few would occasionally fall out. They called it booze cruising and would be a regular thing. I remember doing hash hot knives with a propane torch in my Cordoba. Like alcohol, weed is available whether its legal or not. And legalization didn't make it easier to find, just better & more variety and more convenient. Now adays you wouldn't dare see an empty beer can in a car.
BTW, drug addicted homeless people's choice of drug is much cheaper and harder than any weed product. They can be high all day on 10 bucks on meth or heroin. One joint ($10), maybe an hour or two. Why they were out front of the weed store, who knows. Just because you see a bunch of rough looking people out in front of a gun store doesn't mean gun crime will increase.




I find the government prices in Ontario have matched the black market. The black market dealers and growers must be crying because what use to cost $200 now costs about $80.

Plus you can grow 4 plants in your yard... but that's another law they don't bother enforcing.. my friend in Tecumseh has a few more than that..

And I agree.. back growing up it was common to have an 8-pack behind the back seat while blazing away.. nowadays a empty bottle in the bed of your truck is considered open container if you have a sliding rear window.
 
My view on almost everything is you can swing your fist as much as you want until it hits the tip of my nose. If you want to get high in your own home I don't care if you're shooting up heroin. My problem with drugs is it causes addiction which then impacts the community with homelessness, social service burdens, and crime. If you do get high for God's sake don't drive! I don't want you killing a member of my family because you were wasted and needed some Twinkies.

I smoked dope from about 17 to 22. Not steady during those years but sometimes pretty heavy. I can tell you nothing good ever came of it. Some friends were arrested and my school performance sucked. Once I stopped I was able to get some great things accomplished. Getting my Master's in Geology was hard. Years of high-level mathematics, chemistry, physics, and of course geology classes. As a grad student, you had to keep a 3.5 GPA. There's no way I could have done it while smoking dope.

My son never smoked or even drank much. You can't be a party animal and become a mechanical engineer.
 
Simply because it affected you detrimentally does not mean the rest of us suffered in school, became homeless, delved into harder drugs (chemicals are vastly different from weed), turned into criminals, couldn't hold a job or hurt anyone while piloting a vehicle.

It's not common knowledge but before running a business these last 17 years, I was a certified paralegal working for some of the best attorneys in southern California from 1988 til 2005's Katrina moved me to BFE Tennessee where the lawyers are scarce. I'd still be doing it too (the money was certainly better LOL), and enjoying my little slice of green heaven while maintaining in every way socially and professionally.

I'm not one to beat around the bush but generally do try to be tactful. Maybe today is different. You come off as a totally judgmental prick who can't see beyond the tip of that nose you're avoiding swings at Steve. I do enjoy your non-pot related posts about Colorado though.
 
My view on almost everything is you can swing your fist as much as you want until it hits the tip of my nose. If you want to get high in your own home I don't care if you're shooting up heroin. My problem with drugs is it causes addiction which then impacts the community with homelessness, social service burdens, and crime. If you do get high for God's sake don't drive! I don't want you killing a member of my family because you were wasted and needed some Twinkies.

I smoked dope from about 17 to 22. Not steady during those years but sometimes pretty heavy. I can tell you nothing good ever came of it. Some friends were arrested and my school performance sucked. Once I stopped I was able to get some great things accomplished. Getting my Master's in Geology was hard. Years of high-level mathematics, chemistry, physics, and of course geology classes. As a grad student, you had to keep a 3.5 GPA. There's no way I could have done it while smoking dope.

My son never smoked or even drank much. You can't be a party animal and become a mechanical engineer.
Haha calling marijuana dope is comical. Get off your high horse.
 
I've been smoking since I was 18 ( a long time) and I've never been in an accident or anything else, you smoke when you get home from work (I held the same job for 35 years ) . It seems simple to me
 
My view on almost everything is you can swing your fist as much as you want until it hits the tip of my nose. If you want to get high in your own home I don't care if you're shooting up heroin. My problem with drugs is it causes addiction which then impacts the community with homelessness, social service burdens, and crime. If you do get high for God's sake don't drive! I don't want you killing a member of my family because you were wasted and needed some Twinkies.

I smoked dope from about 17 to 22. Not steady during those years but sometimes pretty heavy. I can tell you nothing good ever came of it. Some friends were arrested and my school performance sucked. Once I stopped I was able to get some great things accomplished. Getting my Master's in Geology was hard. Years of high-level mathematics, chemistry, physics, and of course geology classes. As a grad student, you had to keep a 3.5 GPA. There's no way I could have done it while smoking dope.

My son never smoked or even drank much. You can't be a party animal and become a mechanical engineer.

Unfortunately Steve, your posts sound like you are lumping everyone that smokes into a bunch of heroin addicted homeless people begging on street corners or breaking into houses for a joint. It's simply not true . I know many people that smoke on a regular basis, and most are very successful in their jobs. The ones that don't do it? It's because in their state it's still illegal and it's not worth losing their job/house/criminal record over.

Everybody reacts differently to stuff, whether it's pot, cocaine, nicotine, alcohol, even food. Some people can't eat dairy, while others drink gallons of milk. Some people can smoke a cigarette once or twice a week, for others one cig turns into a 2 pack a day addiction. For me, kissing a smoker is enough to trigger the urge to light one one up again. Just look at ads for drugs with their warnings, some of which basically say "This may cure your sniffles, but there is a good chance it will kill you, talk to your doctor now about Enditall".

As for pot being addicting, I say no, it is not, and that's from personal experience with both it, nicotine and a substance that used to come in soda. Pot, stop on a dime. Soda stuff, took some work but beat it. Nicotine, there's a reason they equate quitting it to giving up heroin, but only without methadone, it felt like the marrow was being pulled from my bones. . Yet it's 100% legal in every city, state, and most countries.

My posting about GW smoking a doob on a book cover in HS? The article said the tobacco manufacturers at the time already had the growing farms, machines to roll into products that could be packaged. And the article said the price at the time (early 80's), would remain the same, because half would be price of pot, and the other half tax. And they'd make enough off the "sin" tax (what we call it on alcohol and tobacco that doubled the price of it) that theoritically,(we all know it'd never happen), it could erase the need for all other taxes.

And for the record... I can't smoke it anymore due to health reasons. And gummies don't work.



I will say a good friend who ran a repair shop in California had to close it down over pot. The area where his shop was located was designated the "pot processing" part of town. His landlord had an offer he couldn't refuse on the building, kicked him out "sue me, I'll still be rich". and moved to another location with less than desirable tenants. He finally had to move out of the state because the smell of it was getting him sick.
 
My view on almost everything is you can swing your fist as much as you want until it hits the tip of my nose. If you want to get high in your own home I don't care if you're shooting up heroin. My problem with drugs is it causes addiction which then impacts the community with homelessness, social service burdens, and crime. If you do get high for God's sake don't drive! I don't want you killing a member of my family because you were wasted and needed some Twinkies.

I smoked dope from about 17 to 22. Not steady during those years but sometimes pretty heavy. I can tell you nothing good ever came of it. Some friends were arrested and my school performance sucked. Once I stopped I was able to get some great things accomplished. Getting my Master's in Geology was hard. Years of high-level mathematics, chemistry, physics, and of course geology classes. As a grad student, you had to keep a 3.5 GPA. There's no way I could have done it while smoking dope.

My son never smoked or even drank much. You can't be a party animal and become a mechanical engineer.

Drug addiction which then impacts the community with homelessness, social service burdens, I spent most of my life making sure those that can't do the right thing for themselves get what they want at everyone else's expense. Talk about they and them, I'm now being forced to replace she and he with they and them. Enough is enough.

Addiction can also be with gambling, smoking cigarettes or drinking and the list goes on. Missouri didn't want the lottery for years because it was harder on the poor because they could least afford the loss of money versus those they called the wealthy. Illinois already had the lottery and everyone from Missouri went to Illinois to get a lottery ticket. Missouri couldn't stand to see Illinois get money from the good people of Missouri so, we got the lottery. Then came gambling at the casino's. We had to protect those that were to weak to control themselves from an addiction to gambling so we elected not to open them. Again, money took front and center and then along came the casino's. Nothing changed and no one died, all was well. Did some people have a gambling problem, of course, not my problem, just like your story. I can't believe you're pleading with people not to kill your family members and thank God you stopped smoking pot or you might never have made your life so complete and fulfilling,what a dick!! You can't be a party animal and become a success is your suggestion. You're right, I was lucky to barely be able to retire at 52. I'd love to tell you everyone I've had the honor of knowing that are extremely successful that partake in the herb, that could use you to wipe their *** with..... this is not about smoking pot or not, this is about your pompous and self righteous attitude. You learned nothing about life in college, which is a huge problem with our education system and thank you for proving that..... Be careful, we'll be watching you to see if you EVER drive over the speed limit, if you do, we'll take your car next, you know, just us protecting you from yourself. That's how your world rolls, never mind over half of the population voted for it, democracy, (a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state.) Now we can all see which side of our democracy you stand on. Lead, follow or get out of the way................
 
I've always been fascinated by the parallels between Prohibition and the war on drugs. History repeats itself. The Great Depression made the process quicker, tax revenues needed to increase quickly to fund the New Deal. Regardless of which side of the aisle you fall, the financial issues haven't changed.
 
I've always been fascinated by the parallels between Prohibition and the war on drugs. History repeats itself. The Great Depression made the process quicker, tax revenues needed to increase quickly to fund the New Deal. Regardless of which side of the aisle you fall, the financial issues haven't changed.
It's always about the money, my point.
 
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