Hot dog in a hallway shifter

[moparedtn]

Dan's got all of it:
Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

Dan's got all of it:
Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists

Yep, Dans the man. And if he doesn’t then Passon will. It’s great having 2 specialists for our transmissions

 

[kiwigtx]

I’m in a similar boat with the Duster. 3rd gear is as though it has its own zip code

 

[ckessel]

The units do wear internally over time. How are the bushings at the rod ends? Plus the holes on the shift arms? All wear areas that will cause slack. I would assume you've check for adjustment using the stop rod you insert into the shifter body, get the trans arms into neutral then adjust the rods. From there have someone row the trans through its motions while you watch from below. I have seen on one car that one of the shift rods was bent more than it was supposed to be which is what was causing the problem. Ordered up a new rod, end of discussion. Me personally, I was not a fan of the Hurst shifters due to their rod size as they seemed more apt to flex/bend. When I had my Duster, I used a Mr Gasket shifter for it. Awesome unit. It used 7/16" straight rods on the forward gears, reverse was bent.

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

Alright I might be shedding some light on the issue, or adding to the confusion. This is a spare shifter I didn’t use because it felt worse then the one in the car, this is how mine is setup.

 

[ckessel]

Might be just the picture but it looks like the top rod has bushings and the other two don't. Also only the last rod has the correct retainer clip. The way they are formed helps to keep the rod pulled to the arm. If you get new bushings, get the steel ones. Plastic doesn't last very long.

 

[eldubb440]

I nominate this thread for best thread title of 2022

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

That’s the retaining clip on the top rod. There’s no bushings, which is probably the problem, I thought that steel clip was enough. Thanks everyone for the help!

I nominate this thread for best thread title of 2022

 

[PlymCrazy]

I nominate this thread for best thread title of 2022

Got my vote

 

[eldubb440]

reminds me of a joke an old timer used all the time..... I will translate to keep it clean

"when she complains about the size of my hotdog, I tell her to shut up and wrap some hallway around it"

 

[ckessel]

If you imagine that last clip as a sort of R, the loop portion is not flat, it's pulled up some. Makes them fun sometimes to get in. That is what keeps the rods pulled into the arms. Get yourself a bushing[ steel, not plastic] and clip pack. Get that installed and re-adjust the shifter. See what happens from there.

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

Do you happen to know the part number? I’ve looked but everything I saw said for the new hurst comp plus.

 

[ckessel]

On Summit, 3327302 for Hurst and MRG-11 for Mr Gasket. Also when you install the clips plus get a little grease on the bushings, make sure the domed portion of the clip faces out. This way you have to compress it down some to get it into the rod hole. This is what helps keep the tension there so the rod stays against the bushings and arms. I'll look through my leftover parts stash to see if I still have one around. Haven't messed with a manual since the late 80's when I had one in my Duster.

 

[ckessel]

I do have some clips and bushings still in my stash. Here are some shots of what they look like in the proper orientation, how they load in. They can be a booger when assembling all with the various pieces there. Do you have the instructions for the shifter adjustment procedures? Do you have this rod for the shifter alignment or some along that line? After you get the bushings and clips in, go through the alignment procedure and see where you end up.

 

[ckessel]

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