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how do I remove plate on LA intake that covers the heat crossover on bottom of intake

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Hey guys I am currently cleaning intake and replacing gaskets as the intake is just completely jammed up with gunk. the place where the egr goes was literally plugged solid. I need to know how to remove the tin plate over the crossover on bottom so I can clean behind it. I tried prying a little bit but I didnt want to damage it it is actually buldging out from all the crap behind it. this is on my 73 318 roadrunner stock intake as well.
 
You might wanna just replace that old intake....Check your local craigslist for a edelbrock or something like that..I picked up my edelbrock for $75 local :)
 
nope gotta clean im putting a brand new 440 in in a couple months so doesn't make sense to replace with another old one its not damaged just filthy. I know they can be cleaned so anyone with experience doing this your help would be greatly appreciated
 
Rivet removal

I worked in a machine shop and this is how we did it. It sounds crude, but it works.
It involves a hammer and a small chisel.

Start tapping on the top of the rivet to loosen it up. After a few light blows with the hammer, take the chisel and place it where the rivet head meets the metal plate. Then tap the chisel lightly until it starts to pull the rivet out of the cast iron. Strike the rivet from different sides. if you notice that the chisel starts to cut into the rivet, try a different spot.

These rivets have a small twist in the shank and will slightly rotate as they come out. When they are out far enough, you can grab them with a pair of pliers and pull them out the rest of the way.
After all of the rivets are out, and everything is cleaned, this is how you reinstall them.

Take brake cleaner and wear safety glasses. Spray the cleaner into to holes where the rivets came out to remove any old oil residue. Blow out the hole with compressed air.

Place the metal plate back into position. Use red loctite on each rivet and tap them back into place.

hope this helps.

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Also FYI.... By removing the metal plate, I don't think it will allow you to gain access to the inside area where the EGR valve port runner is. All the metal plate does is that it is "supposed" to keep hot oil from the lifter valley from hitting the bottom side of the intake, which causes the air / fuel mixture to heat up, making less power and worse economy.
If your trying to clean the burnt carbonized oil from the EGR passageway, simply use a long skinny screwdriver and a small hammer to break it up. A few taps on the screw driver will break up the clumps, and eventually everything will come out. It's pretty labor intensive sometimes.
and again please wear safety glasses any time you strike anything with a hammer. I have had steel shavings drilled out of my eyes 3 different times even though I always wore glasses. Believe me it sucks. You only get 2 eyes.....
 
the tin plate is to stop the oil hitting the hot cast iron when the heat riser is closed if just temp fix just clean exhaust passage like 71airgrabberRR said and not worry about the plate unless you are going to drive that motor for years

with that clean it should help with your cold running you have been fighting
 
i actually ended up getting the plate off very easily i used a claw hammer and a mini sledge i put the claw on the edge of rivet and hit the hammer end with the mini sledge. the claw slowly worked its way under the rivet and popped them right out without any damage. you were right it definitely didn't give me access to the inside of the heat crossover but it was jammed full of nasty stuff i didn't want in there. the 2 holes directly under the carb that feed into the heat crossover and the 2 that go to the head were plugged completely solid and i literally had to chisel that crap out but seems to be clear now. the holes under the egr and the egr itself were also plugged completely solid as well this should make a difference in some way. I just have to figure out how to clean the ports out on the heads now with out pushing the crap further into the heads. IMAG0259.jpgIMAG0258.jpgIMAG0254.jpgIMAG0252.jpgIMAG0251.jpgIMAG0261.jpg

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this poor old 318 has seen better days looks like some one in its history didn't change the oil frequently enough
 
keep it out of the engine but the little that will get into the exhaust manifold will burn up or travel into exhaust
so put your vacuum there and beat it out
 
People often close these holes on purpose, you aren't going to hurt anything during warm weather by having a blocked cross-over. If you're going to have another engine soon, you may as well just leave it and enjoy a cooler, denser intake mixture.
 
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