Hunting Grey Wolf in Canada

[69BBody]

 

[NJRR]

Even the playing field and you wouldn't survive 10 minutes in the wild.

Just to play devil's advocate, hunting with a rifle IS evening the playing field. A human is no match physically for most wild animals. The reason we rule the world is because we have the intelligence to make tools to conquer nature. That's why mankind has flourished.

Personally, I am not a hunter and would not go out and shoot a wolf. I wish we had some in my area. The deer population has exploded because there are no natural predators. People crash their cars into them and get hurt and they leave deer ticks (Lyme disease) in our backyards. If it was legal to hunt them here, I would have no problem doing so to reduce their population and lessen the damage and illness they cause.

 

[Cojohnso1]

I'm not the one , **** I would love to have a wolf ,hell I had a couple red fox that hung around at the barn with our horse's

Actually you wouldn't want a wolf. They are not trainable. They are wild animals. Here in Minnesota we do have limited wolf hunts for population control. It is very controversial. Most of the population sees them as dogs with out a home. Which they are not. Those with live stocks see them as demons which of course are not. Wolves do far better if they avoid us. But of course there will always be overlap. Then there are problems.

 

[coronet68mx]

Eat me.
Hiding and shooting them with a rifle is how I, and many others feed our families. It’s not a sport.
Not everyone is a self righteous urban snob. Some of us actually eat from the land, like we have for generations.

Paul is not offended anyone, clearly you stated my friend FEED OUR FAMILY, and hunt that way is ok, as you can see we are opposed to hunting just for fun, not to eat what you hunt, survival that way must be hard.

 

[coronet68mx]

Take a hunting knife and chase them through the woods. That would be hunting. Hiding and stalking them with a rifle is cowardice.
I hope that you eat what you hunt.

Liam Neeson already do that.

 

[Ironbuilt]

Just to play devil's advocate, hunting with a rifle IS evening the playing field.

Not even close @NJRR A rifle doesn't increase your strength. It allows a person to kill an animal from a great distance without the animal even being aware of the human's presence. That's not fair. A spear or a knife would be a lot more like an even playing field.
That being said, I am NOT anti-hunting. I think that if people hunt to eat, that is fine. I am against sport hunting, that, IMO is cowardice. Nobody is hunting a wolf to eat it.

 

[MGKelly]

A separate post on hunting would be very interesting. Maybe I can learn something.
I probably should just stick to Mopars.

 

[Dreamcatcher]

Personally I don't hunt anything anymore. However it is the right of any person to hunt anything there is a season on. I lived along the border of Yellowstone park for a long time. When they dumped wolves in the park they did not stay just in the park. They have been tracked even to where I live now in South Dakota. They take calves and sheep from the ranches. Here in S.D. they monitor our elk and we loose 80% of the young between mountain lion and wolves. They need to be somewhat controlled. And hunting plays in that in a big way. The area I live in people loose their pets right out of the there yards.

 

[Dreamcatcher]

We have a resident female mountain lion in the area where I live. It killed a deer about 40 feet from my front deck. Kind of makes you look twice when going out after dark. Would I kill it or allow it killed? Not on my property but I don't allow our dog outside with out being with it. But have had other neighbors that have lost pets and also had encounters with these cats and we have had wolves close to the house. They belong here to a point but we also have the right to have domestic animals and feel safe outside.

 

[MGKelly]

Dreamcatcher brings up a point

Many that frown on the different reasons for hunting (meat or sport = honestly it doesn't matter) immediately change their thought process
when wildlife intrude on their daily comforts or become dangerous, the offender has to go no matter what the method.
Whitetial deer can be just as dangerous as cougar or wolf, especially when they come flying through your windshield or pass along ticks carrying lyme.
I also remember a statistic that every second of physical contact with a wild predator would equal 600 stitches (not sure how accurate but it seems like an underestimation)

We have a resident female mountain lion in the area where I live. It killed a deer about 40 feet from my front deck. Kind of makes you look twice when going out after dark. Would I kill it or allow it killed? Not on my property but I don't allow our dog outside with out being with it. But have had other neighbors that have lost pets and also had encounters with these cats and we have had wolves close to the house. They belong here to a point but we also have the right to have domestic animals and feel safe outside.

 

[Ranger16]

I have hit 2 deer (hope I reached my bag limit) and had many more close encounters, one just last year with my Road Runner.
Wolves eat deer.
Guess where I stand.

 

[440 4 speed]

Quite a statement Ironbuilt.

 

[Ironbuilt]

Quite a statement Ironbuilt.

 

[CHARGERSTEVEN]

Or he has a mistress up there and that's the BS story that he tells his wife.

Up here we call them cougars,and old chickens make good soup

 

[mopar 3 B]

IMO, any animal looks better alive then in some wall with his head severed, we are the only species that kill for fun, we do not eat wolves we do not need to hunt them down m, let the majestic king of the forest alone
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We are not the only species that kills for the fun of it. Statements like that just show ignorance.

 

[Baller]

Not even close @NJRR A rifle doesn't increase your strength. It allows a person to kill an animal from a great distance without the animal even being aware of the human's presence. That's not fair. A spear or a knife would be a lot more like an even playing field.
That being said, I am NOT anti-hunting. I think that if people hunt to eat, that is fine. I am against sport hunting, that, IMO is cowardice. Nobody is hunting a wolf to eat it.

I think sometimes we upset the natural balance. Protect wolves while allowing huge herds of cattle to roam crown land. Ranchers tuck the cows away for the winter and the wolves which have been feasting on easy cow prey all summer resort to decimating moose and deer over the winter. Areas I used to hunt are barren due to wolves, not because of humans killing deer and moose, where less and less people hunt every year. As we have messed the balance up, sometimes a cull is necessary. And to suggest that you hunt them with a spear or a knife? lol, get real. A doe would kick your *** if you came at her with a knife.

 

[Ironbuilt]

A doe would kick your *** if you came at her with a knife.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[coronet68mx]

We are not the only species that kills for the fun of it. Statements like that just show ignorance.

No other species seem to enjoy it as much as we do , besides please enlight me with what other species kill for fun, or at least display the variety of emotions as we do like fun, joy, sadness, etc, give me a break, being on the top of evolution doesn't necessarily mean that we own the world by divine right, and we can kill whatever species we want, the argument here is simple, hunt if you need to hunt, for survival, not for the "sport" of it.

btw this images make me sick an want to vomit, am shure all this fine human specimen look starved...
Ohh I forgot to tell you I have a degree in biology.


Ps am am so shure that the lovely couple are aware of the damage and destroy they just did to the little lions and the females.

 

[Ironbuilt]

No other species seem to enjoy it as much as we do , besides please enlight me with what other species kill for fun, or at least display the variety of emotions as we do like fun, joy, sadness, etc, give me a break, being on the top of evolution doesn't necessarily mean that we own the world by divine right, and we can kill whatever species we want, the argument here is simple, hunt if you need to hunt, for survival, not for the "sport" of it.

btw this images make me sick an want to vomit, am shure all this fine human specimen look starved...
Ohh I forgot to tell you I have a degree in biology.

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Cowards, every last one of them.

 

[70chall440]

I am very much a "gun guy" and have been for a very long time, I have hunted but would not say I am a hunter. I have no problem with hunting if there is a purpose. If you are hunting and eating what you hunt, good on you. In cases such as this wolf deal, I agree that as humans we screwed up the natural balance and now have to manage it and left unabated the wolfs will over populate and as noted decimate other species such as deer, elk, moose, etc. I personally would rather see managed hunts and where the money for the hunts go back into animal conservation.

Look, I know that hunting predators such as wolfs elicit emotional feelings but the truth is that they must be managed and not slaughtered as they once were (along with buffalo and others). Where I do have an issue it poaching and hunting things such as Elephants, lions, etc. for sport UNLESS it is a part of conversation. I have hunted in Africa taking Wildebeest, Kudu and wort hog. I got to see giraffes in the wild and they magnificent creatures, I cannot imagine killing one "just because". All that said, I will say that in South Africa the game are managed very well (from what I witnessed).