I knew about driveline offset, but didn’t know this easy check. Thanks UTG!

[AR67GTX]

OK - everyone knows about driveline offset so you definitely have to watch the video to understand what his obscure bit of knowledge is referring to. An alignment hole in the core support matching the pinion off set. A good item of trivia but probably only useful if doing an engine swap or building custom motor mounts.

 

[Darter6]

The old wives' tale I heard back in the day was that it was to help offset the drivers' weight in the car....

I did wheel alignments in my younger days back in the 70's.
Had a customer that brought his 73 Charger in several times a year. He always sat in the car while I did his alignment.
Don't remember why but he did allot of driving for his job.

 

[toolmanmike]

I did wheel alignments in my younger days back in the 70's.
Had a customer that brought his 73 Charger in several times a year. He always sat in the car while I did his alignment.
Don't remember why but he did allot of driving for his job.

Our alignment test at tech school was in the car on a test drive. I drove, took my hands off the wheel, the instructor in the passenger seat, and a fellow student steering the car from the back seat by sitting in the middle or one side or the other.

 

[eldubb440]

I just look for the spot on the hood where the carb stud hits .......usually about 1.5" of center

 

[440 PHIXX]

I probably did hundreds of oil changes on these cars, and I’m sure I glanced at it, and never put 2+2 together. I just thought it was an interesting thing I never knew about.

 

[RemCharger]

It's my understanding that for You Tube to pay you you have to have at least 20 minutes of content.
I noticed that many videos do the same,ramble before getting to the point of the video.

This is the important obscure bit of trivia.

 

[toolmanmike]

Just make sure the lower radiator support hasn't been wadded up in a previous life.

 

[eldubb440]

AMCs have a pretty good offset as well

 

[RJRENTON]

I did wheel alignments in my younger days back in the 70's.
Had a customer that brought his 73 Charger in several times a year. He always sat in the car while I did his alignment.
Don't remember why but he did allot of driving for his job.

I did the same thing....3/4 tank of gas, tires at inflated to full load pressure, me sitting in driver's seat....reason....it loads the suspension and balances the car for the AVERAGE weight distribution. Set vehicle ride height first then caster for best tracking, then camber then toe adjments to center of spec range. Weight distribution affects suspension settings......to MY settings...not necessarily FSM Specs......
BOB RENTON

 

[Kern Dog]

The reason for the offset in the drive line is to control or counter act the TORQUE reaction of the engine (torque opposes rotation) and the same thing is true for the rear end (axle tubes are different lengths + axles) and the reason for differrnt number of spring leaves.....5 + 2 half leaves, right side and 6 leaves on the left side. The concept is fundamental...especially during intense competition....aka drag racing and 4 speed cars with hammer starts.......
BOB RENTON

Nah, I don't agree with this at all. The majority of classic Mopars were slant six and 318 models where there is not much to gain (relating to counter-acting torque) by moving the drivetrain over. The axle has the offset because the axle shafts are the same length. The pinion gear has to contact the ring gear at a 90 degree angle and that requires the pinion shaft to be to one side/offset.
I think they offset the drivetrain to allow room for all the crap they stuck on the left side. Battery wiring, steering box, clutch linkage or auto trans linkage and cooling lines, starter, neutral safety switch wiring, speedo cable, etc.
I've wondered numerous times why Ma Mopar crowded the left side with all that crap. Why the hell didn't they put the ATF cooler lines on the right? Why not the starter as well?

To add...
I never sit in my cars getting alignments. I'm not so friggin fat that my weight is going to lower the car enough to matter. I don't run skinny torsion bars either.

 

[RJRENTON]

Nah, I don't agree with this at all. The majority of classic Mopars were slant six and 318 models where there is not much to gain (relating to counter-acting torque) by moving the drivetrain over. The axle has the offset because the axle shafts are the same length. The pinion gear has to contact the ring gear at a 90 degree angle and that requires the pinion shaft to be to one side/offset.
I think they offset the drivetrain to allow room for all the crap they stuck on the left side. Battery wiring, steering box, clutch linkage or auto trans linkage and cooling lines, starter, neutral safety switch wiring, speedo cable, etc.
I've wondered numerous times why Ma Mopar crowded the left side with all that crap. Why the hell didn't they put the ATF cooler lines on the right? Why not the starter as well?

To add...
I never sit in my cars getting alignments. I'm not so friggin fat that my weight is going to lower the car enough to matter. I don't run skinny torsion bars either.

You can believe what you want......re the drive line off set.....have you not heard of the torque reaction? Its ok if you do no understand.....oh well....to each his own......
BOB RENTON

 

[dvw]

The main reason was for packaging. Sure it helps for weight. But with Grandma's /6 with the grandkids nobody cares about torque reaction. It certainly helps in a drag car. Though any stock stlye non tube chassis car will still be drivers side heavy. Along with engine rotation as stated it still take additional measures to allow equal traction. Preload, stiffer right rear spring, shock settings, etc.
Doug

 

[1967coronet]

You should start a channel:
BRG
Bob Renton's Garage

You could discuss topics like Tapered Roller Bearings vs Green Bearings, Ported vs Manifold Vacuum Advance, Champion vs NGK spark plug, what temperature thermostat to use (or should you use one at all?), the list is endless.

Just pulling your leg Bob, your knowledge is invaluable.

Bob's your uncle ..... Sundays 7 eastern 8 central .

 

[Dave6T4]

The engine offset is there to clear Chrysler's bulky power steering. Pure and simple! Chrysler engines have been offset since before any one thought of drag racing, torque reaction, and blah, blah, blah.

 

[padam]

I didn’t watch the video, because it’s UT.
I would suspect if there is a reference hole in any stamped steel part, it is for location of THE STAMPED PART, either in assembly or in another stamping operation.