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Installed Cal-Trac style bars..

Well I'll have to be honest. Never been questioned about u bolt diameter. Length yes especially if they do not pertrude past the nut so far same as lug nuts and wheel studs. So I called and asked and got the same response from smith racecraft never heard of it being an issue. ???



Budnicks quote:
I've had them bitch about diameter of the 2 U Bolts,
I could imagine some wouldn't like those, no fail safe...
Just curious[/QUOTE]

Funny:
The "Used" set I purchased has a broken "U-bolt"
Are those SFI Certified/NHRA tech legal ?
 
So your car picked up with additional preload?? Mine are set like Dodge 330,and have Viking DA's and have not tried to tune yet.Car leaves stright,I've been chasing AFRs and never played with the suspension,,,,,,,,,,,,yet. Went to a track rental a few weeks ago,taking timing out 2* atta time........

My car just flat wouldn't work without preload. I actually went to the track and just did 60fts till I got it close. It really started to work once I went to tubular uppers and strut rods. Again my car is extremely heavy up front being a mega block, iron heads, cross ram, 10 qt pan, and 26" radiator. I'm sure if I ever get enough weight off the front I'll have to change the setup.
 
LMOL!!! I also have the mega block with STOCK iron 68 or 69 heads,,but throw a blower and a pair of SV1's and now I have 1000lbs of ballast over the front tires:realcrazy::realcrazy::realcrazy::realcrazy:
 
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I was told that if you don't run a pinion snubber with caltracs,you can easily twist your axle tubes because your pinion is trying to lift in the centre and the caltracs are stopping it at the end of the tube.
 
I was told that if you don't run a pinion snubber with caltracs,you can easily twist your axle tubes because your pinion is trying to lift in the centre and the caltracs are stopping it at the end of the tube.
Not so Rick,the Cal trac bars keep the rotation under control, so NO snubber!
 
I was told that if you don't run a pinion snubber with caltracs,you can easily twist your axle tubes because your pinion is trying to lift in the centre and the caltracs are stopping it at the end of the tube.

If you twist the axle tubes on a Dana 60, you must have the John Force tuneup in the Nitro Hemi! LOL!

These tubes are THICK!
 
As you can see in previous post,the perch will let go 1st.:rolleyes:
This answers the question to a previous debate on rear suspensions. Caltracks verses 4 links. No perches to break with a 4 link. Now at what hp level would the 4 link make any sense going to other than brag rights and monies spent?
Has NHRA set any rules?
 
The 4 bar is bestest for drag racing.:rolleyes: It really comes down to personal preference or if your a class racer and must follow a set of rules. My car might be 2 or 3 tenthes faster,but I chose to stay with springs:realcrazy:

4 links break on occasion too,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
This answers the question to a previous debate on rear suspensions. Caltracks verses 4 links. No perches to break with a 4 link. Now at what hp level would the 4 link make any sense going to other than brag rights and monies spent?
Has NHRA set any rules?
Sorry not meant to hi-jack your thread
about Caltracs Dodge 330

Many classes have rules like Stock or Stock Eliminator, SS
where suspension styles is limited

Main reason the Calvert/CalTracs were produced
was to technically get around the rule,
still run leafs like NHRA wants in some specific classes...

4 link is by far more adjustable,
infinite in where you can get the center of gravity, lever action
some use them with floating housings, even with Leafs
if not you need coil-overs, to hold the body up,
that gets a bit more expensive, a bit more tech. to adjust etc.

Depends on your ability to learn to adjust your suspension,
Ladder bars are another choice, far easier to some people,
not a big difference in cost vs CalTracs unless you go with coil overs

there's a whole bunch more fabrication skills involved in installing
& adjusting either Ladders or 4 link...
You really should scale all 4 corners of the car too,
understand what your doing, with the weight, bar lengths/angle,
center of gravity/instant center & preloads etc.

It's not about bragging rights,
or how much HP, you need to justify it or even money spent,
it's about making your car 60 ft the best, regardless of HP,
makes no difference...
It's about getting as much usable HP that you have available
& getting as much of that power to the ground as possible,
for added/enhanced traction...

If done properly & adjusted properly,
It does make the car work better, simply put,
which equates to faster 60ft, 330ft, 1/8th & 1/4 mile times...
All out race cars of all types frequently use some form of 4 links,
they are very street-able too, very adjustable ride heights etc.
if set properly, especially using a watts-linkage vs a Panard bar
you can turn left & right even that way too...

http:/www.cachassisworks.com/stories/techcac-003_web.pdf

http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/info/Launching_A_Drag_Car.htm

Calvert CalTracs are a good alternative,
especially used with their mono-leaf & shocks {not always necessary}
if your rules require it have Leaf springs still, "bolt in" albeit you should
do some reinforcements & use quality hardware/nut's bolts etc.,
as show here or IF you don't want to do a bunch of fab work or
cut or weld on your car as much, it's an alternative performance suspension...

Welds or metal around them & housing can still break
or can still bend on either, of course depending on power levels...

Nothing is 100% fool proof/break proof,
I've seen very few 4 links break &
especially seen more so Ladder bar cars blow the rear ends out,
especially after breaking either welds mounting to the rear,
ripping or tearing from the rear axle tubes/housings
or rod ends break because of wear or in a bad bind etc.
It ain't pretty when it happens either...
 
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Sorry about the vagness of my statement,I was referring to an 8 3/4 axle, not a dana. Ain't got enough power yet to need a dana. lol
 
If you twist the axle tubes on a Dana 60, you must have the John Force tuneup in the Nitro Hemi! LOL!

These tubes are THICK!

John Force... pfffft! I've got 1Gary sitting up my suspension. He taught Force everything he knows...
 
My buddy that put CalTracs in had many problems getting them set up. However once he got them setup he was really happy.
 
Then dialing in the shocks & cal s are like tuning a carb or two.

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