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Looking to Build a Motor

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I'm looking at building a motor, I'm looking a 2 different motors. One is a 383 and the other is a 440, both will have steel cranks. I would like the motor to have 500hp ---600hp and still use 93 octane the car is a 1969 Coronet Superbee. The car will be street driven and shows, may see the drag strip (may) I want to drive the car on day long drives say 150-250 miles without any trouble.Trans doesn't matter can use both, The rear end I would like to use 3:55 or 3:91 surgrip if these gears are wrong tell me. So if someone out there has some good combo's that would fit and work and not break the bank let me know I'm not in a hurry just looking for some information still have a lot to do to the body interior(ETC)

Thanks Mike
 
I think you'll like the longer stroke of the 440 for mass amounts of torque to make driving a breezzzeee. Gear ratios should work with the cam and the cruise RPM range of the car. AKA; where it runs RPM wise at Hwy. speeds. 65? 75? mph.

with a high gear ratio, a taller tire would be helpful. It's a balancing act. Higher gear, taller tire.
 
500-600 HP on 93 is not going to happen with 383 inches and have the drivability you desire. It might not even happen with 440 inches, so you might be looking at a 500 inch stroker motor with 9-9.5: 1 CR and a 112-114 LC cam for a power band that covers your broad driving conditions. You might also consider an overdrive unit or a 4 spd auto or 5 speed conversion.

I can tell you from experience that long trips will be more pleasant with nothing lower than 3.23 gears, a quiet exhaust and no wind noise from leaking window seals.
 
500-600 HP on 93 is not going to happen with 383 inches and have the drivability you desire. It might not even happen with 440 inches, so you might be looking at a 500 inch stroker motor with 9-9.5: 1 CR and a 112-114 LC cam for a power band that covers your broad driving conditions. You might also consider an overdrive unit or a 4 spd auto or 5 speed conversion.

I can tell you from experience that long trips will be more pleasant with nothing lower than 3.23 gears, a quiet exhaust and no wind noise from leaking window seals.


what he said :yes:
 
Find yourself a 400 ci motor,they come in cordovas and other mopar cars...They are a smog engine,so it will not break the bank on the initial purchase...Yet they make really good stroker engines...Thick cylinder walls make them a cool running engine ....
www.440source.com

they will help you out!!!
GO VOLS!!!!
 
A run of the mill 383 is not going to get you there, stroked out to a 496 yes. A 440 can get you to 500-600. You're gonna have to punch her out to get it on the higher end of the 500's. Either you can spend a boat load CNC milling the stock iron heads or buy some Edelbrock performer's or mopars aluminum version standard porting for a cheaper price than dealing with the iron.. An extra plus to the aluminum head is its going to give you more leeway for using pump gas. Your gonna need good breathing heads.You don't need to go all out like B-1's or crazy Indy heads..Too much head for your engine is not a good thing for more of a street car because they will not produce you high torque levels at low speed, but will produce high horsepower at high engine speeds. More of a drag car senario.

One senario i've see work out well for your 500-600 range is run a 4.250" crank, 6.8-7.0 rods, punched RB block at 4.375, good breathing aluminum heads (265-290cfm), Hydraulic roller cam around 240 Dur@ .05, with a 600 lift, 10:1 dished pistons, a decent RPM based intake, 850-950 carb and some good 2" headers pushing it all to the rear. You can get away with a pretty well behaved 750RPM idle this route.

I'm sure a lot of other guys here could also share their formula's to help you along. Just something that's worked for me and others I know. Bottom line to you your question, there's no replacement for displacement, and the longer stroke of an RB makes it easier to bump up your torque/horse in a hurry than a B. You're much better off with the 440

Good luck!

Also to add to 1badgtx 400 idea, you can punch the 400 out to 4.375 like the 440 and have yourself a low deck motor if you're worried about hood clearance issues.
 
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A 440 with a stroker (4.150 inch) crank and bored, I think .060, is 500 cubic inches. 1 horsepower per cubic inch is not hard to get out of one of those motors. Good Luck
 
Would an e-85 build on a 383 get him close to the 450- 500 hp mark?
 
Hey Mike
Here,s what I have. 68 Super Bee 440 block bored .040 440 source 4.15 kit with flattop Ross piston,s blocked decked .020 for good quench,ootb edelbrock heads with Holley street dominator and 950 quick fuel carb. Hydraulic flat tappet cam 525 lift, 244/256@ .050 ,112 lobe separation , TTI exhaust ,SMR reverse manual competition built tranny with SMR 3000 torque converter. Just recently installed Moser Dana 60 with 3:73 gears.With the 3:91 8 3/4 rear I drive 90 miles to the track,best run of 11.70,s @ 116 mph and drive back no problems. Cruises on the street like a normal car ,loads of torque when you step on the gas . I,m satisfied with the build for a street car.
Rick
 
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