Made in USA, Really?

[j-c-c-62]

Exactly. Guy is a jerk-off as he is not comparing the other 2 companies by what they are selling ONLY by what he bought from Amazon so for another $280 he could have made his point by having each one side by side to compare. I guess this guy never heard that China DUPLICATES American products and resells them for pennies. China is number one in the world for intellectual theft.

That is IMO the quiet before the storm. Japan did the same thing, until they became a leader in many areas. I expect China will have the same success.

 

[Don67Satellite]

He has to eat his hat!

 

[j-c-c-62]

He has to eat his hat!

Good for him, but I am not inclined to do a victory dance when another apologizes.

His delivery is still slightly annoying.

 

[moparedtn]

Shhhh. It's a secret!

I went after him in the first video for this very reason and he was quite defensive about it - and yes, now that
Lokar has responded to his blindside attack (as I knew they would, having been familiar with that family and
having visited their facility here in TN in the past), he's backpeddling.

Tony manufactures drama for his YT channel, doesn't see a problem doing so. I've gone after him before about
that - because he's such a genuine resource reference for the hobby when he wants to be, I wish to hell he'd
stop that crap and stick to spreading his genuine knowledge and expertise for all to benefit from instead.
Problem is, like Worman, he likes the attention and is a genuine attention whore as well....*sigh*.

 

[padam]

He has to eat his hat!

What a freaking ignoramus.
I forced myself to watch that whole thing.

The nerve of that clown. He spouted a bunch of BS about Lokar in the first video, then somewhere in the second video sort of apologizes. Then spend 20 minutes trying to justify his lies.

Oh yeah he also has all kinds of advice for Lokar to make stuff as shitty and cheap as the Chinese, so cheapskates like him can duct tape them to a bucket of crap car.

ANY American company that can survive in manufacturing now is doing a TON of things right. UT has no business speaking about it.

The balls on this guy! Downplaying the fact that Lokar has polished floors, and nice cars sitting around. Yeah I’m sure what they really need is to run some antique machines out of a storage unit.

$160 seems like a lot of money until you get a quote from any tradesman. Probably close to an hours labor.

I’m attaching a photo of a recent service quote for a piece of our equipment.
Travel $145 per hour
Service $205 per hour
And this is on the low end.

UT has no clue.
If I were Lokar I wouldn’t let him off the hook with this.

 

[j-c-c-62]

What a freaking ignoramus.
I forced myself to watch that whole thing.

The nerve of that clown. He spouted a bunch of BS about Lokar in the first video, then somewhere in the second video sort of apologizes. Then spend 20 minutes trying to justify his lies.

Dude, a lie requires intent. You already labeled the man an "ignoramus", you have told us you forced yourself to watch the video, that is on you, and now you want to kick the "clown" while he is attempting to apologize and calling him a "liar" without offering any proof?
Shall we burn him at the stake with this pile on?
Everything here about his previous video is self-evident for the astute.
You are crossing a line of civility, and for what exactly?
None of us here are perfect and few of us are man enough to even attempt an apology, from my life experiences.

 

[padam]

Dude, a lie requires intent. You already labeled the man an "ignoramus", you have told us you forced yourself to watch the video, that is on you, and now you want to kick the "clown" while he is attempting to apologize and calling him a "liar" without offering any proof?
Shall we burn him at the stake with this pile on?
Everything here about his previous video is self-evident for the astute.
You are crossing a line of civility, and for what exactly?
None of us here are perfect and few of us are man enough to even attempt an apology, from my life experiences.

You can tie yourself in knots trying to defend him. Have at it.

A good American company that’s fighting the good fight doesn’t need anymore crap piled on them from a YouTube star.

 

[j-c-c-62]

You can tie yourself in knots trying to defend him. Have at it.

A good American company that’s fighting the good fight doesn’t need anymore crap piled on them from a YouTube star.

I am not defending him, I am defending fairness.

And thank you in proving my point in the scarcity of many unable to offer an apology when they have stepped over the line, like I submit you did and I subtly gave you the opportunity to do so. but you just chose to double down.

 

[padam]

I am not defending him, I am defending fairness.

And thank you in proving my point in the scarcity of many unable to offer an apology when they have stepped over the line, like I submit you did and I subtly gave you the opportunity to do so. but you just chose to double down.

I’ll double down on my statement. No apology coming.

 

[j-c-c-62]

I’ll double down on my statement. No apology coming.

 

[padam]

You can read the YouTube comments from the second video.
The majority are still against Lokar saying that the part is probably not all made in USA. The damage is done.

 

[QuickBpBp]

I am not defending him, I am defending fairness.

And thank you in proving my point in the scarcity of many unable to offer an apology when they have stepped over the line, like I submit you did and I subtly gave you the opportunity to do so. but you just chose to double down.

Just an FYI. "Fairness" would be NOT attacking a company publicly based on lies and lack of information THEN retracting those lies after the damage is done.....

 

[QuickBpBp]

You can read the YouTube comments from the second video.
The majority are still against Lokar saying that the part is probably not all made in USA. The damage is done.

Hopefully this clown is sued for damages. Too many people have said and spread so much damaging disinformation/outright lies the past 8-9 years it will be nice to have people be held ACCOUNTABLE instead of given a pass and move on to the next lie.

 

[WileE]

What a freaking ignoramus.
I forced myself to watch that whole thing.
The nerve of that clown. He spouted a bunch of BS about Lokar in the first video, then somewhere in the second video sort of apologizes. Then spend 20 minutes trying to justify his lies.
Oh yeah he also has all kinds of advice for Lokar to make stuff as shitty and cheap as the Chinese, so cheapskates like him can duct tape them to a bucket of crap car.
The balls on this guy! Downplaying the fact that Lokar has polished floors, and nice cars sitting around. Yeah I’m sure what they really need is to run some antique machines out of a storage unit.
If I were Lokar I wouldn’t let him off the hook with this.

Yup. His is a weasel response if I ever heard one. While his general intent is admirable, specific accusations without substantiation is not the way to go about it. A simple " I was wrong and apologize" is all that's needed.

 

[33 IMP]

I think I watched an uncle Tony video once. I thought his opinion was crap, haven't watched one since.
This reinforces my decision.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Just an FYI. "Fairness" would be NOT attacking a company publicly based on lies Did you not read my shared definition of a "lie" that requires intent, which so far is unproven? and lack of information Everyone here suffers from lack of information and why I believe most of us are here except for the know it all's THEN retracting Is that the real problem Tony is man enough to apologize and other "clowns" here are not and Tomy makes them look lame by doing so? those lies after the damage is done The real damage is done by those lacking the ability to first consider the source and scrutinize the information thoroughly, that is on them, but I am repeating myself......

This is a good proven path to run many away, when an apology cannot without a full-blown pile on be accepted from those who at face value mean no harm it seems.
I am not defending Tony, I have already shared what I think on the man in a civil way that is likely correctable and am willing to leave it at that.
Calling another a liar without basis really does a disservice to the real liars we have to deal with in the world.

 

[padam]

This is a good proven path to run many away, when an apology cannot without a full-blown pile on be accepted from those who at face value mean no harm it seems.
I am not defending Tony, I have already shared what I think on the man in a civil way that is likely correctable and am willing to leave it at that.
Calling another a liar without basis really does a disservice to the real liars we have to deal with in the world.

He implied that Lokar was repackaging Chinese parts and claiming they were made in the USA. Thats not true.
Did he tell the truth or tell a lie?

 

[Don67Satellite]

What a freaking ignoramus.

 

[QuickBpBp]

This is a good proven path to run many away, when an apology cannot without a full-blown pile on be accepted from those who at face value mean no harm it seems.
I am not defending Tony, I have already shared what I think on the man in a civil way that is likely correctable and am willing to leave it at that.
Calling another a liar without basis really does a disservice to the real liars we have to deal with in the world.

With-out basis??? LMAO did you even watch the video? You can try and spin it anyway you want. YOU ARE WRONG. When you make up things (AKA a lie) especially one that says DON'T buy from Lokar at $166 or Jegs for $110 just buy from Amazon at $16 it's the same stuff just repackaged when in FACT it's NOT. That was a LIE and financially damaging to Lokar and Jegs. The IRONY is he accused them publicly of lying to customers when in fact he was the one LYING!!! This wasn't a personal conversation it was a video made up of lies that damaged a company's reputation and has cost them customers THROUGH THIS LIE.

 

[Don67Satellite]