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Mecum 440-6 Superbird Can't Break $100,000

.....there are bubbles, and booms and the car market follows these trends perfectly. The issue of "Super Cars" ultra-rare cars selling for insane sums is the buzz of the sale and spectacle of the event. BJ made the spectacle into a profitable formula....the real issue is, there are only so many cars out there that fit that model and of those cars the commission erodes the formula for "investor" vs the collector. I'd guess that the larger auction houses will decline quickly in the next few years.
 
I don't think we're seeing a market swing. I think we're seeing a market correction. Classic cars sales started skyrocketing in 1987 due to the effects of Black Monday in November 1987 on investors. They fled the stock market and turned to collector cars as a safe haven for investing. The increase in prices was not because of normal market trends as we saw Superbirds go from selling for $5,000 in 1986 to $50,000 in 1988, $75,000 in 1990, etc. It was investors who were driving the prices, not collectors. And we had auction houses looking the other way at the use of shill bidding to drive prices up by making "bid up to..." the price mark rather than "sold for". Since 2009, gold has been skyrocketing and I suspect investors realized that buying gold was a whole lot cheaper than trying to buy and maintain collector cars, so they started dumping their cars and reinvesting their money in precious metals.

What I think we're going to see happen over the next couple of years is more and more of a market correction to where prices are determined by supply and demand of collectors and not investors, so there will be less money propping prices up. I also suspect many owners who do think this downturn is part of a temporary cycle are in for a rude shock in two years or so. That will be when enough owners realize the bottom really is falling out and the rush to sell will be on, which will drop prices like a rock.

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Holy cow! No wonder why old Mr. Mecum was so ticked off Saturday night. I just checked the numbers for this weekend's auction. They had 686 vehicles up for auction. 318, 46%, were no sells! Wow! I remember when the norm was 15% no sells on the block and only about 5-7% no sells after post-block negotiating. Almost half the cars at the sale did not sell while on the block or afterwards. That's pretty amazing. What was worse is most of the cars that did sell were the low-end crap cars that sold on Thursday and early Friday for fairly low prices. Most of the high end/high fee cars didn't sell. I would guess they lost money on this auction.
 
Holy cow! No wonder why old Mr. Mecum was so ticked off Saturday night. I just checked the numbers for this weekend's auction. They had 686 vehicles up for auction. 318, 46%, were no sells! Wow! I remember when the norm was 15% no sells on the block and only about 5-7% no sells after post-block negotiating. Almost half the cars at the sale did not sell while on the block or afterwards. That's pretty amazing. What was worse is most of the cars that did sell were the low-end crap cars that sold on Thursday and early Friday for fairly low prices. Most of the high end/high fee cars didn't sell. I would guess they lost money on this auction.

exactly, He's flooding the market with too many auctions, too many high reserves, too many fees to sell a car, 3%-5%-10% what ever Dana Mecum chooses to sell the car for sometimes {% depending on if it's a no-reserve or a reserve car} for a minute on the auction floor is ridiculous, sell a car for $30k & give $3k for a minute, plus the 5%-10% buyer fee on-top of that, seems like a rip off to me... I know there is a bunch more involved than that, but that's what a seller sees, unless it's heavily advertised in a brochure or TV commercial shots, it's just not worth it at Mecum, for the lower prices he sells for, verses what he chargers, no matter the market trends... I think the Resto-mods did pretty well & sold allot of them, High end & high $$$ 100% OEM resto's, most didn't hardly sell at all, or sold for a fraction of the market, regardless of make/brand... GM's probably sold 4 -1 to any other make too, would be my guess... IMHFO It's hard to make a big $$$ sale, especially if the big $$$ money's, not even in the room too, hardly any big name collector that I saw there anyway, but didn't watch the whole TV telecast all 5 episodes either, just off & on for the most part... I did see a bunch of flippers thou, it's turned into an overpriced wholesale auction house "almost"...

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IMHFO Barrett Jackson Auctions does a much better job of getting quality high $$$ cars sold, even the high end resto's {for the consigners, not necessarily the buyers}, much better product for the sellers IMHFO anyway & for better prices with big name & big $$$ collectors, in the house too, you have to have big money buyers/collectors to make big money sells... they make 18% on every sale too, with 10% fee from the consigner & 8% fee from the buyer, except for charity cars, they are free to go across the block, no fees... or something along those lines anyway
 
This is interesting. I just checked the results for the Barrett Jackson Scottsdale 2013 auction, and they are apparently now almost 100% no reserve sales. I don't know when they made that change, but I guess they got smarter faster than Mecum did. :) They had one Hemi Cuda convertible with a reserve that sold for $1.32 million, and one 70s-looking dune buggy that didn't get any bids apparently, and the rest sold with no reserve.

The only Superbird at the auction sold for only $126,500.

The only Superbird at the 2013 Reno/Tahoe sale went for $77,000, but it wasn't very original.

The only Superbird at the 2013 Las Vegas sale went for only $134,200.
 
This is interesting. I just checked the results for the Barrett Jackson Scottsdale 2013 auction, and they are apparently now almost 100% no reserve sales. I don't know when they made that change, but I guess they got smarter faster than Mecum did. :) They had one Hemi Cuda convertible with a reserve that sold for $1.32 million, and one 70s-looking dune buggy that didn't get any bids apparently, and the rest sold with no reserve.

The only Superbird at the auction sold for only $126,500.

It's been probably 10+ years ago now, they use to be all no-reserve for a while there & now in the last 2 or so years, they've offered a "reserve", on select cars {for a price, I'm sure}
 
Yep, they were forced into going no reserve because of all the fraudulent bidding going on. They lost a lot of credibility in the late 1990s and early 2000s over that.
 
Great! Prices need to come back to earth. The prices were jacked up by investors and boomers. Dealers and flippers are one thing, but someone that is just buying it like they would a bar of gold speculating an increase in value isn't good for the car hobby. Boomers were paying the price of the car plus the price of nostalgia.

Someone mentioned concourse Model As being turned into hot rods. It's more than that, some are being turned into rat rods with faux patina, stop sign floorboards, etc.
 
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