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Memory going- old school drag classes

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Per the picture, especially at Doug @dvw ; I know you’re faster than B/Gas in the day. Does anyone remember the difference between the gas classes & than NSS today?
Just a little off the normal. I’m assuming Arlen had a Hemi.

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Not sure about the conversion from old to new classes ....but I know cars have gotten a lot faster these days. :steering:
 
Not sure about the conversion from old to new classes ....but I know cars have gotten a lot faster these days. :steering:
Yeah, we’re talking 30-40yrs… BUT, I can’t remember!!!
 
I'm sort of foggy on the exact pounds (#'s)

started about 1973-ish Comp Eliminator Classes like 200 of them

A/G lighter weight per cid, like 6#s per/cid, non supercharged Gas class
A/Gas

B/Gas
B/G a lil' heavier weight per/cid something like 6.6#s per/cid,
with a 426 it'd be 2810# car, very few Hemi cars back then were less than 3000#s
(even the acid dipped bodied cars, weren't really light)

C/Gas
C/G was a lil' heavier per/cid, like 7.5#s per/cid
etc. etc. etc.

1977
AA/Gas is/was a Blown Gas, any tire any gear 'open car'
limited cid/limited blower size 6.71:1 & overdrive to 40%, on Gas
limited to pump size too, biggest pump was 180a pump, most people on Gas ran an 80a
(fuel pump driven off the cam or a belt, that 180a pump Enderle or Hilborn mech. FI pump
can support 500cid on alcohol, back in the day
)
if it was Fuel Injected & still the same weight per/cid,
A/A - a altered or slowed down NHRA S/E 7.90 ET bracket
Budnicks 23 T Ford Altered Crower Inj. #1.JPG

if it was carbureted it had a 0.01# per/cid weight break
NHRA Comp Eliminator classes circa 1978 (?)

Late 60s & early 70's it was called Modified Production
MP/-- prior, the rules were far different prior to 1973-ish (75 ?)

before then the A/- alcohol or AA/- designation blown, was fuel or blown Gas
the letter behind that was weight designation,
AA/A was like a fuel dragster
B/- was injected alcohol
BB/- was injected fuel, or blown alcohol
after the / the letter designated weight or fuel type, gas, methanol/alcohol or nitro
all of them type designations went away, when it became Comp Eliminator
like 1973-74-ish IIRC, I wasn't class 'NHRA' racing yet, just wed. & fri. nights stuff
not until 1977, just before I turned 18 in July

my 23 T 6.71:1 Blown/gas 301cid (alum. SBC based Donovan) altered (former BB F/C chassis)
was AA/Gas (AA/G) 6.01#s per/cid
it was min. of 1806#s with the ballast added, with a 301cid engine, ready to race
you ran on a national index fasted car of the weight class/style of car, flat out w/no breakouts
couldn't go too fast you'd change the index & get torn down, on the edge performance stuff

Budnicks 23 T Ford Altered AA-Gas 6-71 Blown 301ci Donovan (1).jpg

Camaro in the back ground was S/G 9.90 class (super-gas) in 1977

Below
later S/C 8.90 (Super Comp) then T/S (Top Sportsman) or S/E 7.90 class (Super Eliminator) 1980-ish
the pass below was at Sacramento raceway, 1st pass in the 8.98 range, all Iron 468 LS7 Mark IV BBC

Budnicks 67 Camaro 8.98 @ Sacramento early 1980's (brightened up a tad).png


circa 1982-ish my 49 Ford was B/G 499cid at 3294#s w/driver then,
I'm 6'-1"-2" 250-ish (shrinking) have been for decades,
a lil' lighter back then more like 235#s, 259#s with fire-suit, helmet
head sock & Nomex under where, w/fireproof boots SFI 20-3 layer suit
(B/Gas or I ran it also in 'Pro-Gas 8.50' too) prior they didn't care about driver weight
Budnicks 49 Ford Business Coupe Pro-Gas #4.jpg

FI on Gas, latter alcohol, then blown methanol inj. 526cid Milodon Hemi
Budnicks 49 Ford Business Coupe Pro-Gas #7 Hilborn Hat & tunnel-ram.JPG

A/A 6.90 @ about 190 or slow it sown for 7.90 S/E
Budnicks 23 T Ford 427ci BBC Alky Inj Altered A-A Sac Raceways.jpg
 
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@Budnicks , that’s bringing back some memory cells, thanks. Young members should love it.
 
Don't know the rules back then. But I did know Arlon very well. Good friend. He was a great guy. Raced against him in N/SS a bunch. I have been lucky to have been mentored by many smart racers from the past that became freinds. A ton of knowledge to soak up. Those who taught me from back in the day? Dave Koffel, Lew and Ron Mancini, Jack Werst, Jerry Stein, Bob Book, Al Adam, Ted Spehar, Tony Depillo off the top of my head. What a great number of influencers. Plenty of younger guys through the years as well.
Doug
 
NHRA Sportsman Super 'ET' Classes, were 'breakout classes', brackets you can't go too fast
10.90 - S/ST super Street
9.90 - S/G super Gas
8.90 - S/C super Comp.
7.90 - S/E super Eliminator

I ran all of them at one time or other, 0.4 tenths pro-tree
very competitive
 
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