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Less BS about changing tire alignment specs from stock (a.k.a. let's rant about Mopar suspension some more)

Easier said than done, given that the suppliers of modern digital alignment racks continue to include factory settings which - as has been mentioned time and time again here - are not usable for radials. Not unless you want to wind up in a tree, anyway.

Happy Mopar owners having their cars serviced at Mopar dealers isn't exactly a good sample size, especially since - 50 years later - there's no sign of consensus regarding B-body geometry, only fervent schools of thought in direct opposition.

"Easy steering" is a vague (irony not intended) term and has multiple interpretations, as is "old car" steering.

As I mentioned in my original commentary, the 3-turn variable ratio Saganaw side-mount steering box in my '71 Mustang and the other 4-turn Saganaws I've experienced in 1970's-era Fords and Craprolets all meet the definition of "old car" and "easy steering." They're light and can be turned in with little effort. However - in my opinion - I wouldn't call them "sloppy," and in my experience, they are definitive in directionality. You turn the "easy steering" and - for normal street driving - it goes exactly where your brain estimated that amount of steering input would place the car.

I have nothing against this "old car" steering and I like it very much.

The Mopar box can just as easily be called "old car" and "easy steering," but not anywhere on the same level as the Saganaw box. I would absolutely classify the feeling as sloppy, excessively light (i.e., the shaft is not connected to anything light), and extremely vague. This isn't my assessment of a Mopar A or B-body with bias-ply alignment settings (yes, that experience is in my wheelhouse), this is my assessment after nailing down a correct, modern alignment with proper caster and camber.

That type of "old car" steering I can do without.

I'm inclined to believe much of the lore that has been passed down to these days around old car experiences comes with a caveat of single-brand loyalty, so these experiences - even within the same era - are sometimes not representative of the era. Heck, this even applies for late model vehicles. An LX or LD Charger rack doesn't feel the same as some Kia/Hyundai racks of the same era (though similar), and if the regular driver of either were to step into a BMW of the same era, they'd discover a much stiffer beast.

Incidentally - side note - similar side-mount Saganaws to the Fords were fitted to Dodge B-vans after 1994 and up to 2003 as well. While the springs in them are tuned to provide more resistance to turning, the general directionality and self-centering is on par with the 1970's Saganaws. They may not have the feel of a power rack-and-pinion, but somewhere, someone at Chryco - prior to DamilerChysler - decided that a Saganaw box designed back in the 1960's was fit for a vehicle of the 1990's...and the Mopar box wasn't.

-Kurt
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See post #13. Scott has sold and set up alignment equipment for decades and was a front end/ alignment tech at a dealer before that. The post is what he recommends.

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