Need advice and also a warning.

[superbee6]

Not kicking anyone ,just stating the truth, buy a car with no title and trusting a stranger, you get what you get, sometimes good sometimes bad.

Well, you think/hope that people are honest. Remember I hired him to also do work on the car, the reason I didn't take the car with me. He also had a woman who was his business partner that handled his paperwork, made it look even more legitimate. I wasn't the first to get duped by his lies and smooth talk. More experienced guys also got caught up in his crap and are still without their cars and no money back, more than three years after they "purchased" from him. Most guys you hire are strangers correct? So, whatever Yella.....I'm sure you are the most pleasant of people to deal with. In any case I have the car with a clear title, got all the money back that I was owed and I'm still getting parts periodically.

 

[superbee6]

I’d like to Pm you with a couple of questions, but your PM box is full. Thanks for the update

Ok, sorry, I'll clear out some messages.

 

[superbee6]

Well, I must say that I’m a little shocked, and very happy to hear that at least you got the car. Is it painted, and did he install the front suspension stuff you sent to him, or did you at least get that back too?

Thanks it was not without stress but I did get the car. In the end, the car is extremely solid, no rust. I did get my suspension back not installed. No big deal. However, one other thing he did that I wasn't happy about, he insisted that he'd install my UScartool stiffening kit for free. I told him not to that I just wanted the car back and the parts. He did it anyway, and it's more of a mess than an installation. Cold welds, splattery welds, shoddy work at best. I'll have to cut them all loose and redo everything and clean up the mess he left me with.

 

[superbee6]

Just curious, which VIN did you end up with?

I ended up with the car that had the second VIN he gave me. I checked all of the body numbers and they match. Really I don't care which VIN I get, as long as it's a legal VIN and matches the title. After looking the car over and comparing all of my pictures, I'm convinced they actually did make a mistake and gave me the incorrect VIN originally on the BOS. This is the car I looked at and purchased. I looked under the inside of the cowl to see if the numbers had been patched in and no sign of welding or anything. Looks as legit as any other car I have.

 

[superbee6]

Bumping this to renew awareness. I received another message from a member and his friends that are getting scammed by Gary.

 

[Cranky]

Bumping this to renew awareness. I received another message from a member and his friends that are getting scammed by Gary.

Are any of the scammers members of this site??

 

[Hey-O]

I don't understand how this happens! I have bought and sold houses my whole life. I would have set the rules of legal engagement so high he would have never wanted to deal with me for fear of me coming back and owning the very cloths he has on. If he didn't like my term, in my favor, not his, that would have been fine, it weeds out a**holes like this. This would have been the beginning and the end of me dealing with him...... " He didn't have the title with him, had to get it out of his files"......... How about I bring you the money tomorrow and take the car today.............I just don't get it, it's a car for Christ's sake.

 

[68BabyBlue]

I don't understand how this happens! I have bought and sold houses my whole life. I would have set the rules of legal engagement so high he would have never wanted to deal with me for fear of me coming back and owning the very cloths he has on. If he didn't like my term, in my favor, not his, that would have been fine, it weeds out a**holes like this. This would have been the beginning and the end of me dealing with him...... " He didn't have the title with him, had to get it out of his files"......... How about I bring you the money tomorrow and take the car today.............I just don't get it, it's a car for Christ's sake.

Absolutely. With vehicle purchases, my practice has been to eyeball the vehicle and a clear, unencumbered title, then show the seller my funds, or source of them. As a seller, I've shown the unencumbered title, buyer has to show me the funds. When I bought my Peterbilt, the seller had an encumbrance. He wanted me to give him funds, so he could clear it. I showed him my cashier's check made out for the purchase price, said my end of the deal is complete, your move. He got his son to pay the lien off, and I bought the truck, free and clear.

I got caught on the short end one time, buying an old Cadillac from a nice old lady, who didn't want to trade it for what the dealer offered her on a new one. Title had an encumbrance from 15 years ago, she said the bank had gone defunct, so no lien release stamp. She was honest, and it was a true story, but it took me six months until I was able to get the lien removed. Her son was an banker, and used his connections to get it straightened out. I got lucky, and never made that mistake again.

 

[eldubb440]

damn back yard body shops!